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Reluctant Hero Collecting my 'Our Scotland' Pension!

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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:40 pm Post subject: Blair criticises Saddam's death |
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Can you believe the nerve of this guy?
What about the thousands of innocent Iraqis that are dying because Blair and his pal decided to take it upon themselves to take over another country?
Should he not be criticising these daily deaths?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6245651.stm
Blair criticises way Saddam died
Tony Blair has called the manner of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein's execution "completely wrong".
But the prime minister, who has not previously spoken publicly on the death, said the punishment "should not blind us" to Saddam's crimes.
Mr Blair has been under pressure to comment after several senior colleagues criticised last month's execution.
It was important not to "lurch into a position of forgetting" Saddam's victims, he told a press conference.
Taunts
At the weekend, Chancellor Gordon Brown described the manner of Saddam's hanging as "deplorable and unacceptable", echoing comments by several senior government ministers.
Mobile phone footage shows the former Iraqi leader - a Sunni - being taunted with Shia slogans before his death.
The crimes that Saddam committed do not excuse the manner of his execution, and the manner of his execution does not excuse the crimes
Tony Blair
Mr Blair's spokesman has already called the manner of the execution "completely wrong", but this is the first time the prime minister has criticised it in person.
Mr Blair told a Downing Street press conference: "As has been very obvious from the comments of other ministers and indeed my own official spokesman, the manner of the execution of Saddam was completely wrong.
"But that should not blind us to the crimes he committed against his own people, including the death of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis; one million casualties in the Iran-Iraq war, and the use of chemical weapons against his own people, wiping out entire villages of people.
"So the crimes that Saddam committed do not excuse the manner of his execution, and the manner of his execution does not excuse the crimes.
"Now I think that's a perfectly sensible position that most people would reasonably accept".
Liberal Democrat leader Sir Menzies Campbell has previously said Mr Blair's "unwillingness to condemn the shameful scenes surrounding Saddam Hussein's execution does him no credit".
Saddam was executed last month following his conviction in November over the deaths of 140 men in the town of Dujail in 1982.
Mr Blair's comments come after footage taken of Saddam's dead body appeared on the internet.
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RFM 'Our Scotland' = 2nd Job!
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Well you see, the problem is that the US installed a puppet government of people who have not lived in Iraq for several years and have been picked by the CIA to represent themselves as the "people's choice". After all, how many westerners have any means of knowing what the Iraqi people think? The execution shows that the so-called goverment is really a bunch of hoods who could care less what Blair, Bush or anyone else thinks about them; almost exactly like the bunch that ran the government of South Viet Nam. In about 5 years or so these people will turn up in exile in southern France or England, perhaps purchase a football club or two, concoct fanciful plots about assassination, etc. |
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Aventinian 'Our Scotland' Fossil

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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:58 am Post subject: |
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Damned if he did, damned if he didn't. The situation Tony Blair seems to find himself in quite often these days.
Hussein's hanging was unacceptable, and I'm glad Blair has acknowledged it. Although the idea that we should support the death penalty simply because it was the will of the Iraqi people and state is, in my opinion, complete and utter bollocks. _________________ The resident pantomime villain.
'Socialists cry "Power to the people", and raise the clenched fist as they say it. We all know what they really mean—power over people, power to the State.' |
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Reluctant Hero Collecting my 'Our Scotland' Pension!

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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Aventinian wrote: | Damned if he did, damned if he didn't. The situation Tony Blair seems to find himself in quite often these days.
Hussein's hanging was unacceptable, and I'm glad Blair has acknowledged it. Although the idea that we should support the death penalty simply because it was the will of the Iraqi people and state is, in my opinion, complete and utter bollocks. |
Blair said the manner of his execution was unacceptable, he didn't say the execution was unacceptable.
Although I agree. I don't think there is ever a case where a person should be hanged. |
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RFM 'Our Scotland' = 2nd Job!
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| It all depends on your point of view. After all if the US invasion and makeover collapses, as it certainly appears likely that it will, who would be the obvious choice to restore government and order? Saddam Hussein, naturally. But like the execution of Charles I, it is very likely that it will be someone close to Saddam who will emerge as the next leader, unless the puppet government can kill off all of the likely contenders. |
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sandmountainslim I Love 'Our Scotland'

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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:14 am Post subject: |
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| RFM wrote: | | Well you see, the problem is that the US installed a puppet government of people who have not lived in Iraq for several years and have been picked by the CIA to represent themselves as the "people's choice". After all, how many westerners have any means of knowing what the Iraqi people think? The execution shows that the so-called goverment is really a bunch of hoods who could care less what Blair, Bush or anyone else thinks about them; almost exactly like the bunch that ran the government of South Viet Nam. In about 5 years or so these people will turn up in exile in southern France or England, perhaps purchase a football club or two, concoct fanciful plots about assassination, etc. |
9 times out of 10 I disagree with RFM but on this issue he is right on the money.
He falls in line with the Jefferson Republican Party this time
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RFM 'Our Scotland' = 2nd Job!
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| Flattery will get you everywhere! |
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Babygael Collecting my 'Our Scotland' Pension!

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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:13 am Post subject: |
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WHAT am I hearing??
What I WANT to hear is folk standing in defence of the Kurds that were gassed by Saddam,the prisioners that were tortured.As some witnesses said at Saddams trial how they saw human flesh and hair in some rooms of torture as from a mincing machines.And what about the mass graves which are still being discovered today??
Am I sorry that they hung the basturd?? I think not!!
Blair is wan big feline !!! _________________ Ath-bheothachad
Here is where I come to water my roots. |
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Aventinian 'Our Scotland' Fossil

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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| Reluctant Hero wrote: |
Blair said the manner of his execution was unacceptable, he didn't say the execution was unacceptable.
Although I agree. I don't think there is ever a case where a person should be hanged. |
That's what I was saying, it's a very hypocritical position to take, but one which everyone in Britain seems to be agreeing with. |
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Babygael Collecting my 'Our Scotland' Pension!

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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:47 am Post subject: |
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Britain??? What does scotland think about it??? _________________ Ath-bheothachad
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sandmountainslim I Love 'Our Scotland'

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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Babygael wrote: |
Am I sorry that they hung the basturd?? I think not!!
Blair is wan big feline !!! |
I am not sorry that they hanged Saddam, I just think it was carried out in a detestable way by a group of thugs.
He should not have been taunted on his way to death by the damned Maadi Army followers.
That proves to the world that the Green Zone "Government" is nothing more than a Shi'ite rogue squad with the approval of Bush and his little Bretwalda, Mr. Blair.
WP _________________ William Potter
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RFM 'Our Scotland' = 2nd Job!
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Well Babygael;
I certainly have never heard anybody holler for Maggie Thacher's head about the things the English did to the Irish, or to take another example Pinochet. If you want butchers, there is a man who could head the international meat cutter's union, hands down. Yet Jack Straw decided his diabetes kept them from delivering him to the Spanish authorities. I guess Jack Straw thought the Spanish don' t have diabetics and don't know anything about it. Who in his right mind would believe our erstwhile friend and ally, Hosny Mubarak is anything but a murderer and torturer? Where do you think the Americans send people they need to have tortured? I won't even start on South and Central America, but it bears remembering that Saddam obtained the poison gas that he used on the Kurds from America. You may recall when the world learned of it, the US response was that it was "bee pollen". |
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Babygael Collecting my 'Our Scotland' Pension!

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:53 am Post subject: |
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Hey RFM, I'm not saying that Saddam was any bigger a despot than several others and that he only reached where he did because, well mainly America had no more use for him,so he became toast!
However, hed did gas those people and so much more.And if It did nothing ele.it delivered justice for those whose families and communities died at his hands. _________________ Ath-bheothachad
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