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Gypsum_Fantastic
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 Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:06 pm Post subject: Champions League draw |
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Rangers v Villarreal
Probably the 'easiest' of the group winners that Rangers could have faced but a difficult match nonetheless.
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SLG
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: Champions League draw |
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| Gypsum_Fantastic wrote: | Rangers v Villarreal
Probably the 'easiest' of the group winners that Rangers could have faced but a difficult match nonetheless. |
They'll be pleased. But I guess Villareal will be saying exactly the same thing. |
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azzuri
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yup - but I believe Villareal will rip them to shreds.
they knocked out Man United and are far superior in terms of team organisation to Rangers.
lets just hope they don't embarass Scottish Football like they have done to themselves domestically this season.
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parkhead_rfb
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come on the villareal celtic submari 
thats the celtic supporters club that villareal started over that after our visit there. Celtic fans also recently organised a x mas party for the children of villareal so i'l be using these reasons as my excuse for hoping rangers get humped (as if i needed one )
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Despite being English (well, half-English, half-Scottish), I'm a Rangers fan and think that Villareal are the best team we could have drawn, except if we were drawn again Arsenal or Liverpool. Being to other British clubs we could have done well against them.
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parkhead_rfb
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drugs are bad blackleaf 
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Abieuan
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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barney
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| as a liverpudlian and liverpool and rangers fan, having watched villareal scrape through against evrton, i think the boys in blue have a fair chance, their form in the c/l is similar to rangers. thepeople in villareal willbe most welcoming to another batch of glaswegian supporters. |
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parkhead_rfb
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villareal are one of the on form european sides just now i would say barney. Barcelona are for me the best team in europe just now and i'd reluctantly put chelsea second (hate chelsea) so this may be an easier draw but they will still beat rangers easily.
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I think Rangers will win in the first leg at Ibrox.
All we have to do is win only 1-0 in the first leg, and then 0-0 in the 2nd leg will do nicely.
It's as simple as that. |
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barney
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[quote="parkhead_rfb"]come on the villareal celtic submari
thats the celtic supporters club that villareal started over that after our visit there. Celtic fans also recently organised a x mas party for the children of villareal so i'l be using these reasons as my excuse for hoping rangers get humped (as if i needed one )[/quote]
i've never understood the old firm fans not wanting other british teams doing well in europe. it's like shooting yourselves in the foot with the co-efficent. we should all support british teams.i'm generally suspicious of rangers fans and celtic fans who do not want their rivals to suceed in eorope, it is generall very small minded and prbably based in secterianism. in the leauge give them hell but in europe-just stupid. my team have just lost the world club final, again. |
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SLG
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| barney wrote: | | i've never understood the old firm fans not wanting other british teams doing well in europe. it's like shooting yourselves in the foot with the co-efficent. we should all support british teams.i'm generally suspicious of rangers fans and celtic fans who do not want their rivals to suceed in eorope, it is generall very small minded and prbably based in secterianism. in the leauge give them hell but in europe-just stupid. my team have just lost the world club final, again. |
The coefficient is based on the national FA's. There is a Scottish coefficient based on the performance of the Scottish teams and similarly English and Welsh coefficients based on their teams performance. So we shouldn't all support British teams. |
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parkhead_rfb
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we dont want our biggest rivals to win, shocking eh.
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parkhead_rfb
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oh i should point out that i dont want rangers to win in europe either, not just hibs.
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barney
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| i'm sure 99% of scottish fans support rangers and celtic in europe as it is good for scottish football. it is just a mindles miority who are so petty. |
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Rinty
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:34 am Post subject: c |
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Then count me as one of the mindless minority.
As a Celtic supporter, the biggest barrier to our success is always Rangers. Any misery, misfortune, loss of form, defeat or any other blow to Rangers is a boost to Celtic IMHO.
I support other Scottish teams in europe but I want Rangers to lose every game they play, no matter who they are playing against and in what competition. The only possible exception to this is when and if Rangers played the champions of England (a no lose situation for me).
This is not an exclusively old firm thing, most rival clubs across europe will feel the same way about the other lot competing in Europe. |
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SLG
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| barney wrote: | | i'm sure 99% of scottish fans support rangers and celtic in europe as it is good for scottish football. it is just a mindles miority who are so petty. |
Well you'd be totally wrong. Most olf firm fans I know won't support the other half for reasons Rinty and parkhead have given. Most non-old firm fans I know (and definitely not all nationalists), would like to support all Scottish clubs in principle, but when it comes to Rangers and you see the fans on tv, and hear the songs, you can't help but want them to lose. While the extra points to the coefficient are welcome if they win, the embarrassment they cause Scotland every time they travel to another country outweighs that. |
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azzuri
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| SLG wrote: | | barney wrote: | | i'm sure 99% of scottish fans support rangers and celtic in europe as it is good for scottish football. it is just a mindles miority who are so petty. |
Well you'd be totally wrong. Most olf firm fans I know won't support the other half for reasons Rinty and parkhead have given. Most non-old firm fans I know (and definitely not all nationalists), would like to support all Scottish clubs in principle, but when it comes to Rangers and you see the fans on tv, and hear the songs, you can't help but want them to lose. While the extra points to the coefficient are welcome if they win, the embarrassment they cause Scotland every time they travel to another country outweighs that. |
so true.
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barney
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[quote="SLG"][quote="barney"]i'm sure 99% of scottish fans support rangers and celtic in europe as it is good for scottish football. it is just a mindles miority who are so petty.[/quote]
Well you'd be totally wrong. Most olf firm fans I know won't support the other half for reasons Rinty and parkhead have given. Most non-old firm fans I know (and definitely not all nationalists), would like to support all Scottish clubs in principle, but when it comes to Rangers and you see the fans on tv, and hear the songs, you can't help but want them to lose. While the extra points to the coefficient are welcome if they win, the embarrassment they cause Scotland every time they travel to another country outweighs that.[/quote]
you are entitled to your opinion but if that is how you decide if you support the old firm in europe i assume you feel the same way about celtic and their travelling support, riot in amsterdam, planes in cardiff,riot in vigo,stabbings in seville,booing uefa cup winners as they lifted cup, ira chants, i was at liverpool-celtic game a couple of years ago and there was trouble in some pubs as stupid celtic fans took offence at liverpool fans with irsh descent flying the red hand flag. they embaressed their otherwise excellent support that night. i hate all this secterian bile but i wish to defend my scottish club. |
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parkhead_rfb
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and why were celtic fans given an award off of eufa? stabbings in seville, funny i dont remember hearing of a single arrest or problem being reported by the police. where were the riots in vigo?
you will also find that it is not the red hand which offends sections of the celtic support it is when the crown is placed on top of it and the original white background changed to white 
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