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Stevie
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 Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 11:17 am Post subject: GB Footbal Team |
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Has anybody any idea how this Brownian notion of a GB football team is progressing?
I'm not a fan of football really(except the world cup) but I find the prospect of a Unionist football team odd and offensive.
I suspect it would lead to friction between the players and the fans.
I tried posting this on the football thread but no replies and I really would like to know where it currently stands.
And my apologies if you've already talked this subject to death previously.
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| Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: GB Footbal Team |
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Yes, we HAVE discussed this subject before, but of course there are bound to be more recent developments, and maybe somebody (not me) can provide up-to-date information on what they are. | Bravehand wrote: | | I'm not a fan of football really (except the world cup) |
I'm not even all that interested in the World Cup. Unless there should be some really big upsets in it....... | Bravehand wrote: | | but I find the prospect of a Unionist football team odd and offensive. |
Same here. Scotland and England have always had independent football teams right from the start. The very first international match ever was between Scotland and England. When European level football was organised, and when world level football was organised, Scotland was from the start an independent footballing nation. The move towards a British team is a move to do away with that independent footballing history, at a time when the rest of society is, if anything, gradually catching up with the independence of football. This is a highly politically motivated move which must be rejected. | Bravehand wrote: | | I tried posting this on the football thread |
That is in the "Banter" section, isn't it? I never go there. This topic could quite properly be posted under "Scottish Politics and Independence", or it could quite properly be posted under "Scottish Life and News", but "UK and Ireland Politics" will do. |
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| Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: GB Footbal Team |
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| Bravehand wrote: | | Has anybody any idea how this Brownian notion of a GB football team is progressing? |
It isn't.
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I tried posting this on the football thread but no replies and I really would like to know where it currently stands.
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Please don't cross post.
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Think the latest on it is that Coe and his cronies are adamant that there is going to be a GB team, but the SFA are equally adamant that there will be no Scottish involvement in it.
There is also the prospect of one of the matches happening at Hampden. I think I would go along to that one just to sample the "unique" atmosphere 
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| i'm all for it. a GB team. a GBFA. scrap the SFA and EFA and the old firm will leave the diddy teams behind and plat in the top tier of british football,i so wish this would happen. |
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| linoleum wrote: | | the old firm will leave the diddy teams behind |
The sooner that happens, the happier all of us will be.
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Stevie
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| linoleum wrote: | | i'm all for it. |
Of course you are.
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| Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: GB Footbal Team |
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| Bravehand wrote: | | I'm not a fan of football really(except the world cup) but I find the prospect of a Unionist football team odd and offensive. |
Contemptible nonsense. You don't give a toss about football, yet you're willing to politicise football teams out of some sort of national insecurity? What utter stupidity.
| Dave Coull wrote: | | Scotland and England have always had independent football teams right from the start. |
And equally we have had British football teams fielded from the very earliest olympic football events.
| Quote: | | This is a highly politically motivated move which must be rejected. |
There is not a British olympic football team at present for reasons of past practicality, particularly the division between amateurs and professionals. This is no longer an issue.
It rather seems your side are the ones politicising it. |
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Stevie
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: GB Footbal Team |
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There shouldn't even be an "it".
Of course here we see that you promote Brit identity against a Scottish identity when I imagine the English don't even want it. Going against both sides out of a sense of... I haven't got the foggiest.
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GB fielded an olympic football team until 1972. The current opposition argument is that it would undermine the future position of the 4 FAs. Why, when it did not do so in the past?
I think it's just churlish on the SFA's part - or perhaps they were afraid of the embarrasment of only having one or two players in the squad. |
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GB really stands for Gordon Brown here.
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The British and Irish Lions seem to get on just fine....
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| Luke P wrote: | | GB fielded an olympic football team until 1972. The current opposition argument is that it would undermine the future position of the 4 FAs. Why, when it did not do so in the past? |
Perhaps because there were fewer FA's back then. For example the USSR used to cover a vast amount of countries that now have their own national football team.
| Quote: | | I think it's just churlish on the SFA's part - or perhaps they were afraid of the embarrasment of only having one or two players in the squad. |
I don't think it would make any difference to be honest, because I would imagine there would be very few Scots watching a game with a British team.
| Quote: | | The British and Irish Lions seem to get on just fine.... |
That is the best argument yet, I take it all back. Let's have a British team
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| Reluctant Hero wrote: | | Luke P wrote: | | GB fielded an olympic football team until 1972. The current opposition argument is that it would undermine the future position of the 4 FAs. Why, when it did not do so in the past? |
Perhaps because there were fewer FA's back then. For example the USSR used to cover a vast amount of countries that now have their own national football team.
| Quote: | | I think it's just churlish on the SFA's part - or perhaps they were afraid of the embarrasment of only having one or two players in the squad. |
I don't think it would make any difference to be honest, because I would imagine there would be very few Scots watching a game with a British team.
| Quote: | | The British and Irish Lions seem to get on just fine.... |
That is the best argument yet, I take it all back. Let's have a British team |
I don't know if you are joking or being serious. There is only one Scottish player in the squad at the moment (I think). So why would you watch them? |
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| linoleum wrote: | | i'm all for it. a GB team. a GBFA. scrap the SFA and EFA and the old firm will leave the diddy teams behind and plat in the top tier of british football,i so wish this would happen. |
I think all the 'diddy teams' would love this.
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No team GB.
Every idea or image of 'Britishness' we see is based on English 'culture'. The sooner 'Britain' is dead, the better.
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Luke P
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| This is about sport not culture. The British and Irish Lions do ok - people support them. Why could it not work in football? I think actually people are afraid - afraid that it would. |
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| There is a tradition with the British and Irish Lions - still contentious though. People see it as being an Invitational Side like the Barbarians is. There is no precedent of Invitational Sides in mainstream football - only a few one off charity matches from time to time. |
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| Cymro wrote: | | There is a tradition with the British and Irish Lions - still contentious though. People see it as being an Invitational Side like the Barbarians is. There is no precedent of Invitational Sides in mainstream football - only a few one off charity matches from time to time. |
Traditions have to start somewhere. One day someone decided to stick his neck out and suggest a British Lions team. I don't know if it was to save money on long distance air fares or to give us a better chance of beating the Ossies but I haven't seen any controversy over it at all.
Call me a maverick but I don't think precedent is what it used to be...
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