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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:09 pm    Post subject: Hang 'em high? Reply with quote

Alex Salmond interview with the Daily Telgraph.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/n...Scottish-rope-after-election.html

Mr Salmond said: “There’s a vast, overwhelming majority of people in Scotland, regardless of political preference, who rather like the idea of the Westminster parliament being hung by a Scottish rope.
“I don’t think a Tory majority is a shoo-in by any means. I think a hung parliament or a balanced parliament of some kind is still more than an arithmetic possibility. It’s a strong possibility".


Personally I don't disagree with his analysis, but I think I preferred the previous analogy of "dancing to a Scottish Jig".

Not sure if the Telegraph has much of a circulation north of the Border but given the SNP electoral strategy has to be focussed on the floating/undecided voters, more careful language might be wise.

People tend to prefer dancing over murder Smile

If the SNP achieve anywhere near the target of 20 Westminster seats next year, that would be a Big Moment, but would Cameron not be more likely to turn to the Ulster Unionsts in a hung-Parliament scenario before getting into bed with "narrow minded separatists"?



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Hang 'em high? Reply with quote

Cruachan wrote:
Not sure if the Telegraph has much of a circulation north of the Border but given the SNP electoral strategy has to be focused on the floating/undecided voters, more careful language might be wise.


Once I would have agreed with you but not any longer.   I do get your point, I just think the time when the Tory-nat (Iain somebody...?) said it well when he called them, "a nation of numpties".

The time for walking on eggshells is past.  I'm not suggesting being unpleasant but simply continue to be direct and honest.

If the voters don't like it, they were weak supporters and wouldn't vote SNP anyway.

Yes, be careful but be direct and honest, they seem to be willing to go with that.  And the beauty is, it's not a ploy or a strategy.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Hang 'em high? Reply with quote

"There’s a vast, overwhelming majority of people in Scotland, regardless of political preference, who rather like the idea of the Westminster parliament being hung by a Scottish rope. "

There's Big Eck deluding himself again about how much support his pet project of independence has.

"If the SNP achieve anywhere near the target of 20 Westminster seats next year, that would be a Big Moment, but would Cameron not be more likely to turn to the Ulster Unionsts in a hung-Parliament scenario before getting into bed with "narrow minded separatists"?"

In Northern Ireland, the "Ulster Conservatives and Unionists" are one electoral force for European and UK elections - or at least will be in the latter case in the next election. That said, the UUP's only current MP is practically Labourite in her sympathies.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even staunch opponents of independence would probably be tickled by the thought of Scottish MPs calling the shots in Westminster. I'm pretty sure that's what Alex meant, rather than your interpretation that everybody's in favour of independence. After all, why bother with a referendum if the whole country's so obviously behind the idea of independence?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holebender wrote:
Even staunch opponents of independence would probably be tickled by the thought of Scottish MPs calling the shots in Westminster. I'm pretty sure that's what Alex meant, rather than your interpretation that everybody's in favour of independence.


I hardly think many Unionists want to see their parliament "hung" by the neck.

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After all, why bother with a referendum if the whole country's so obviously behind the idea of independence?


I suppose deluding himself was probably the wrong implication: trying to delude other people is what he was up to, the scoundrel.

Cruachan wrote:
If the SNP achieve anywhere near the target of 20 Westminster seats next year, that would be a Big Moment, but would Cameron not be more likely to turn to the Ulster Unionsts in a hung-Parliament scenario before getting into bed with "narrow minded separatists"?


It wouldn't be hung then. The UUP are taking the Conservative whip at Westminster after the next election as part of the Ulster Conservatives and Unionists joint electoral force. They will, in virtually all matters, be Tory MPs. Whilst it might not come immediately, I think it will be interesting to see a Northern Ireland Secretary with a  Northern Ireland seat.


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