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azzuri · 'Our Scotland' Fossil Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 3777

.....................to keep up their title challenge?

Have to admit that having seen them already at Rugby Park at the start of the season I wasn't overly impressed with their play but they were 'clinical' and got the job done.

Hope for Scottish football's sake they continue in this rich vein of form and win the title. Maybe then the Old Firm will go off to the English Premiership taking their particular brand of 'support' with them!

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Grant · Finding Ma' Way Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 7

Hope they keep it up too - Old Firm stranglehold on Scottish Football has went on for too long.

SLG · Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject:

It's still too soon to tell. They beat a good Hibs team and a decent Aberdeen and Killie team so far. They really need to get a result against a faltering Rangers at Tyncastle. If they do that I'll believe they are real challengers.

I'm a Hibbie and I think we're coming on to a really good game, but if we don't win the league, I hope anyone other than the old firm do. Even Hearts!

Tartan Jack · Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:20 pm Post subject:

I"d love to see Hearts do it.Just to have someone to end the old firms stranglehold on the league.Whether they can keep this run going i don"t know,i can only hope!
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SLG · Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:02 pm Post subject:

I'm just back from Easter Road. We lost to Celtic 1-0. Celtic were pash though. There is no reason why Hearts can't beat them and Rangers.

azzuri · 'Our Scotland' Fossil Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 3777

you're right mate the 3-0 scoreline really flattered Rangers against Killie yesterday.

Poorest Rangers team I've ever seen - but then I'm only 22!
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andreimack · Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:06 pm Post subject:

Im a Rangers man and i was at the game yesterday and admittedly we were poor again! It has been a shakey start to the season again!! but it's looking like the corner is being turned.I dont want to pass comment to quickly on Hearts but they have started well,whether they have strength in depth for a long season remains to be seen? I dont think you can ask questions about there bottle as it is a totally different team now, and a lot of foreigners who prob have no idea of the clubs past history,and who do not know enough about the old firm to have any fear of them.I for one am just starting to believe again so lets have a good season with a lot of quality football and hopefully a good world cup as it looks like we have the makings of a very good national team .
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rkingphoto · Finding Ma' Way Joined: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 10

A lot depends on what happens on Saturday in their first match of the season against an old firm team. I don't mean them winning, the manner of their play should determine if they have the bottle.

If they do win, they will be 11 points ahead of Rangers, that will be a lot to make up, even for Rangers.

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SLG · Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:07 am Post subject:

azzuri · 'Our Scotland' Fossil Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 3777

the problem will come when they get a few injuries.

do they have the depth in their squad if bednar, jankauskas and skacel are all carrying knocks at the same time?
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SLG · Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:54 pm Post subject:

parkhead_rfb · Getting on a bit! Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 1974

Hope for Scottish football's sake they continue in this rich vein of form and win the title. Maybe then the Old Firm will go off to the English Premiership taking their particular brand of 'support' with them![/quote]

is this a reference to the old sectarianism chestnut? i will point out that rugby park is one of the grounds where i have been called a fenian b****rd on a few occasions. Also look around ayrshire during the marching season mate, they aint all rangers fans you know.

on to football matters i dont really think that hearts have the depth of squad to keep the pace for a whole season. celtic aint by far the best team i have ever seen but the fact we arent in europe might turn to our advantage in the league as we definetely werent good enough to play at that level anyway.

azzuri · 'Our Scotland' Fossil Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 3777

is that supposed to mean I actually endorse this sort of behaviour? I only can vouch for my behaviour - not that of any other fans.

however you dress it up - there are far more bigots in the Old Firm support that all other teams put together - this is fact. What you fail to realise is that bigotry is the only thing keeping these 2 abhorrent businesses trading. They stir up hatred between fans which keeps idiots travelling from all over scotland to support them. Mr Murray and Mr Desmond are laughing all the way to the bank as you lot knock the living s**t out of each other on a saturday night after an old firm game.

As for the marching season in Ayrshire - I don't really see what this has to do with anything. I don't endorse that either. All of these idiots are the same ones travelling up to Ibrox and Parkhead every other week.
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parkhead_rfb · Getting on a bit! Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 1974

of course they have more but that is due to the size of them. was that only a handfull of fans booing the minutes silence for the pope? id say it was a very high percentage. so i think that rather than simply blaming the old firm for bigotry is short sighted in the extreme its a society problem and it exists to an extent in all clubs and to a great extent in certain clubs outwith the old firm. lets face it the celtic support cant be that bad if we have an award from fifa can we?

azzuri · 'Our Scotland' Fossil Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 3777

I know it's a society problem also within the West of Scotland but you can't seriously suggest that Rangers and Celtic do NOTHING at all to promote this bile.

It's a reciprocal system of reliance - there is no way the West of Scotland bigotry problem would be as bad as it is if it weren;t for the old firm.

You say it's due to the fact that they have more supporters that they have more bigots - but it's because they ARE bigots that they BECOME supporters.
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azzuri · 'Our Scotland' Fossil Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 3777

parkhead_rfb · Getting on a bit! Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 1974

i am not suggesting that the celtic support is perfect yes we have idiots just like all supports i am simply stating that bigotry simply isnt limited to the old firm and is prevelant in others, hearts being the prime example.

i also resent the fact that you say i became a celtic fan due to the fact that i am a bigot. I am a glaswegian of irish desent therefore celtic was the natural club of choice for myself and my father, his father etc have all supported the club.

i would also be interested to hear what particular songs celtic fans sing etc which you consider bigoted?

azzuri · 'Our Scotland' Fossil Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 3777

First of all - this thread has went WAY off-topic - if you want to reply to this post please do so by starting another thread.

I don't remember saying ANYTHING about bigoted songs? Confused

Yes of course I know that bigotry is within all fan bases - because it's a Scottish problem - not just a football one. The Old Firm DOES help keep it going however.

Imagine Rangers as a football team were to no longer exist - do you think there would be more or less sectarian assaults in Glasgow over the course of a year?

I also never said that ALL old firm fans are bigots. Your arguments seem to be based on statements that I did not make.
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SLG · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:06 pm Post subject:

Back on topic. They did it. Went to Darkheid and showed that they can compete with their main competition. The league is still looking great, if Rangers sort themselves out, it may even turn into a 4 hourse race Wink

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parkhead_rfb · Getting on a bit! Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 1974

i still dont think they have the depth of squad for later on in the season when injuries etc start to bite, celtic would also be in serious trouble of we had a euro campaign to fight, mcleish has won a watch with his champions league group though.