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Shagpile · This is Ma' Life! Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 794

Could it be.....

A new cold war!

Fantastic, assured peace in that region at last. Well at least for a couple of decades.

Tell Brown to cancel his new power projecting Carriers.... we wont need them to invade Iran or Syria anymore!

Yipee! Very Happy

Stevie · Independentist Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 1179

Yep, Brown was stern faced and serious, meeting the challenge of the times in the face of inevitable disaster, leading nations to react against and in consort with his saving the world yet again.

OR

He was a dull unimaginative nonentity that nobody on the world stage likes or can stand but they can't explain why. They just know that they'd rather talk to the conference cleaning lady than spend time speaking to him. It's almost painful to see Obama tolerate him whilst wondering why he should have to and all the while Brown is smiling inappropriately.

Smiling in that sort of way where someone pretends to get the joke while not understanding the joke but hopes if he acts like a likeable chap people will like him and he'll make friends.

Wrong.

I just discovered he has a glass eye. That explains his 'dead eyes, shark eyes' look. It doesn't explain his pugnacious jutting jaw.

Yes, he's praying for a cold war this Xmas so that he can unite the country behind him.

Dear Lord, nobody would follow this fellow anywhere. He'll be gone soon...
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Rinty · Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:19 am Post subject:

I thhougt it was a comedy turn performed to demonstrate "irony".

Brown expects to get a slap on the back for reducing his arsenal to 160 warheads and three subs. Shouldnt Iran see this as the level of acceptability? If having that sort of asenal gets you plaudits as a man of peace, Iran have a long way to go before the can be seen as warmongers.

Of course, Browns hypcrisy was outdone by Israel who called Irans behaviour 'unaccepetable'.

Israel have an estimated 80 warheads. It is an estimate as Israel do not conform to any international agreements and refuse to cooperate with the IAEA or UN, banning inspectors from their sites.

Iran, on the other hand, DO conform with the IAEA. They just refuse to comply with the extra add-on conditions that apply only to Iran, imposed by the UN security council, i.e. that big 5 nuclear powers.

Stevie · Independentist Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 1179

What the heck is a dinky little island doing holding 160 nuclear warheads?

As an aside, how many warheads would it take to cause a nuclear winter?
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Alasdair · Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:09 pm Post subject:

It all sounds a bit like the build up to Iraq to me.
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Shagpile · This is Ma' Life! Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 794

Stevie · Independentist Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 1179

Of great help and entirely depressing that the nukes on Brit subs alone have the capacity to destroy life on Earth 4 times over.

Ah well, gotta laugh.
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Shagpile · This is Ma' Life! Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 794

Holebender · Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:24 pm Post subject:

I'm not sure if that's strictly true. What is true, however, is that the missiles cannot be targeted without information from US satellites and so they are unusable without permission from the US.
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Stevie · Independentist Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 1179

I've often pondered why there is so little of us in the US.
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jamesieboy · Helping with the Count Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 327

Iran is one of the most vile regimes in the world.

It is run by a bunch of clericalist nutters who have a dreadful
human rights record.

It is one of the worst places in the world to be a woman or a gay.

Israel, in comparison, is a much more pluralist country where
women and men can mix and have a beer on the beach, where
homosexuals can live without fear and where there is free speech.

The government has done nasty things of course (on occasion) but
few in that region have clean hands.

Anyway, if you want a better picture of what goes on in the region
look up Amnesty International's view of the individual players.

Try Syria. Their record (when was the last time they had an election?)
on human rights is pretty grim, and they've done some nasty things in Lebanon.

landg · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:14 am Post subject:

racisits and bigots run iran, they are not to be trusted.

Red Justice · Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:35 pm Post subject:

I would rather countries only used nuclear technology for peaceful means. But what gives the US and UK the right to decide who is responsible to have nuclear weapons?
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Stevie · Independentist Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 1179

Nobody gives them the right but if the Iranians have nukes they'll use them.

And then we'll say we should have stopped them.

When I say Iranians (not the citizens but their loony government).
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Shagpile · This is Ma' Life! Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 794

jamesieboy · Helping with the Count Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 327

What I'm saying is that the Arab regimes (Iran is Persian with an Arab minority in the south) are given an almost free reign in this country by the liberal media.

Most Arab/Muslim regimes (very few of them are democratically-elected governments) have committed horrendous human rights abuses but you hardly ever hear about them.

Syria's meddling in Lebanon is hardly ever mentioned even though it has lead frequently to death and destruction and they have widely believed to have been behind a number of assassinations of democratically-elected Lebanese politicians.

landg · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:22 am Post subject:

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Dave Coull · Independentista Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2809

Most of a lifetime ago, I was in Arab countries for two years, as a member of the British forces. I spent a year of that in Bahrein, a country ruled by a monarchy from the Sunni minority, but with a Shia majority. Most of the year we were allowed into the capital city, Manama, when off duty, but when it came to the Shia commemoration of the martyrdom of their founder we were confined to barracks. Devout Shias would go through the streets whipping themselves with chains until they bled, and the military top brass were concerned that if passions ran high they might start whipping us instead. It was when I was in Bahrein I first started learning about Iran. Because of its location, and also because of its majority Shia religion, Bahrein has ties with Iran, as well as with its fellow Arab countries.

landg · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:31 pm Post subject: