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Neil This is Ma' Life!
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 731 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:09 pm Post subject: NATO/NAZIS FREE NASER ORIC WHO MURDERED 3,800 SERBS AT SREBR |
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http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=973262006Serbia slams UN's 'mockery of justice'
SERBIA yesterday denounced a two-year sentence given to a Bosnian Muslim as a mockery of justice and proof that the United Nations war crimes tribunal in the Hague was biased against it.
On Friday, the court found the wartime commander Naser Oric guilty of failing to prevent the murder of Serbs near the Bosnian Muslim enclave of Srebrenica early in the 1992-5 conflict. He was released because of the time he had already served and went home on Saturday.
Bosnian Serb forces overran Srebrenica in July 1995 and killed some 8,000 Muslim men and boys in Europe's worst atrocity since the Second World War. But Serbs say 3,263 of their own had earlier been killed by forces under Oric's command.
"The sentence...is an open mockery of justice and a sneer at innocent victims," Serbia's prime minister, Vojislav Kostunica, said. "The Hague tribunal, which was conceived as the ultimate word of world justice, is increasingly becoming its own opposite, a symbol of injustice."
Serbia is under western pressure to arrest and hand over the wartime Bosnian Serb commander Ratko Mladic, who is accused of committing genocide in Srebrenica.
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To which I replied:
The Serbs are absolutely & completly right on this. What Oric did was to carry out repeated attacks on villages around Srebrenica killing thousands of old men women & children (3,800 have been identified by name) since the younger men were away at war. This was genocide, pure & simple . Unlike the alleged later massacre of Oric's soldiers, for which there is virtually no credible evidence Oric's genocide is certain. Not only to NATO's senior general Marrilon testify to this at Milosevic's "trial" but Oric showed journalists videos of him beheading women & children from his very extensive home video collection.
Letting this genocidal creature go merely demonstrates, if there was ever any doubt, that the "war crimes tribunal is a wholly completely & absolutely corrupt & racist propaganda instrument of wholly completely & absolutely corrupt & racist genocidal NATO politicians.
By comparison the later alleged "Srebrenica massacre" of Oric's Moslem "warriors" which, unlike the primary genocide, has been massively hyped by the western media is certainly in part & probably wholly, a deliberate propaganda "big lie" (to quote Goebbels). What goes unreported is that the bodies were found near the sites of Oric's genocide & far from where they should have been if they were Moslem bodies & that despite massive DNA testing of them against Moslem records (but not Serb) they have overwhelming proven "unidentifiable" Add that to the statement of the ranking NATO officer at Srebrenica, Captain Schouten that " If executions have taken place, the Serbs have been hiding it damn well. Thus, I don’t believe any of it. The day after the collapse of Srebrenica, July 13, I arrived in Bratunac and stayed there for eight days. I was able to go wherever I wanted to. I was granted all possible assistance; nowhere was I stopped."
NATO & their semi-judical hirelings have deliberately released the real author of the Srebrenica massacre because they know that the propaganda lie they have told, & the press & TV have dutifully sold, for over a decade could not survive a conviction of this Nazi war criminal.
As regards the sentence- compare it with that of Dusko Tadic, accused of murdering a man's father. Defence counsel brought the alleged deceased into court to testify on his behalf, at which point the prosecution witness admitted to having lied under forceful pressure from the Bosnian Moslem secret police. Oric got 2 years, Tadic got 20.
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Let us never ever under any circumstances let any NATO politician, including every loyal Labour Tory & Lib Dem one ever claim to be in any way motivated by any sort of human decency.
_________________ The aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
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SLG Born Again..........and still Scottish!

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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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| So what is their motivation? |
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Neil This is Ma' Life!
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 731 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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NATO's various wars against Yugoslavia were all sold on the claim that it was the Serbs, & the Serbs virtually alone, who were engaging in atrocities. In fact they knew from the beginning that the opposite was true - that both Croatian & Bosnian leader were ex-Nazis publicly committed to genocide from the off while Milosevic was anti-racist & committed to peace. Over the years the fabricated "Srebrenica Massacre" has been built up as the ultimate proof of their lie.
To convict Oric of the primary & probably only genocide at srebrenica would indicate, correctly, that the NATO politicians have been deliberately lying to us all for 16 years to provide a justification for the fact that they also are guilty of genocide. In which case the possibility is increased that Bliar, Clinton, Kohl & the rest of these obscenities will one day face something approaching justice & hang by the neck.
I think you will also find that Gotovina, the Croat general nominally in charge of the Krajina Holocaust will also get off. He can quote details of that genocide & how it was actually US officers on a "democracy training" mission who were in command. _________________ The aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
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SLG Born Again..........and still Scottish!

Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 5515 Location: Dùn Eideann
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I see what you're sayin Neil and, without having looked at too much detail myself, you seem to be able to back it up. My question is why. Why are NATO so keen to pin everything on the Serbs? I don't really see what they stand to gain from twisting things that way. |
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Neil This is Ma' Life!
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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2 big reasons. Germany's & everybody else's.
The Germans have a deep racial hatred for Serbs. Part of this goes back to the 19thC, part of it to the fact that the Serbs/Yugoslavs were uncompromisingly on the other side in 2 wars. Partly after the collaspe of the USSR they wanted eastern Europe to be their sphere of influence. Thus destroying Yugoslavia & creating pro-German substates was merely following historic precedent. When the EU countries first discussed Yugoslavia they voted 12 to 1 against breaking it up. A couple of weeks of German calling in favours they voted 13 - zero the other way. For this & for specificly encouraging Bosnian "independence" (which they had all been informed would, under Izetbegovic the ex-Nazi Moslem leader, create a genocidal war) John Major got German approval for us opting out of the Euro. He presumably considered it an ok price because it would be paid only in Yugoslav blood. Hans Genscher, the German Foreign Minister has said, in his autobiography, that the destruction of Yugoslavia was "my greatest achievement".
The other western countries reasons, apart from sucking up to Germany which was seen to be fated to become Europes leading power (Clinton described Germany as our main ally in Europe) was a political one. This was at the time of the collapse of communist eastern Europe yet Yugoslavia, which had been reforming for years, was a pretty successful economy. As rich as any eastern country except East Germany. Since the paradgim was that communism was a complete failure Yugoslavia could not be allowed to prove an exception. At any costs.
It is also a natural human tendency to self-justify. Once we had started the genocide we had to paint our satellites as the good guys & Milosevic & the Serbs as villains. In which case our governments had to side ever more closely with the Nazis So they did. They lied & then lived down to their own lies. My personal opinion is that Hitler's Holocaust which started with breaking window & ended with Auschwitz shows the same positive feedback. I have previously posted on mob psychology of this phenomenon.
A tertiary point was the unstinted support the Pope gave, both diplomaticly & finacially to the Croatian Nazis & eventually everybody. Tudjman, being a good catholic, was on record as saying "genocide is commanded by the word of the Almighty to spread the one true Faith" - presumably God's representative on earth approved. _________________ The aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
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SLG Born Again..........and still Scottish!

Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 5515 Location: Dùn Eideann
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for explaining that Neil. I do appreciate however these things start, the tendency to self-justify kicks in. |
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LAz Nationalist

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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Dobardan i zivela srbija.
| Quote: | | I see what you're sayin Neil and, without having looked at too much detail myself, you seem to be able to back it up. My question is why. Why are NATO so keen to pin everything on the Serbs? I don't really see what they stand to gain from twisting things that way. |
There is one explanation that Neil did not add.
You see, Yugoslavia existed only for the purpose of being a buffer between the west and east. When the cold war was ending the west decided that the end to yugoslavia was comming too. SAPs that the IMF and World Bank imposed help increase regional differences and fuel secession movements. Also, the West forced Yugoslavia to have elections and the west funded candidates who were for secession.
You know what happened? The serbs did not elect the pro west candidates, they voted for the socailists and were not in favour of destroying yugoslavia.
This is the whole problem. Socialism. The west targeted the Serbs because they were more socialist. We were one of the few people of eastern europe who rejected the western economic policies. We did not want to privatize our industries for nothing. We did not want to become slaves of western corporations. The others did and therefore the West supported them. |
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