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patriot1320 · Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 8:21 am Post subject: SNP's next campaign....

What do you all think the SNP's next campaign should be.. positive or nagative.... what slogans can you think of and what would be the best way for the SNP and other Pro-independance parties to get the message out as we have seen Blairs government controlled TV,Radio and Newspapers?

azzuri · 'Our Scotland' Fossil Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 3797

I'd like to think it would be positive - unfortunately we all know that negative campaigns seem to work better - hence why Labour still got a stonking majority in the GE this year - by telling people, "ok - so we've made a few mistakes, but do you really want to let the tories back in?"
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patriot1320 · Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject:

labour seam to have had loads of nagative campains attacking scotland... Now we have the truth it will be interesting to know what comes next?

SLG · Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:00 pm Post subject:

I think you need a bit of both. It may be negative, but there are still too few people that understand the extent to which the British state has lied to us about oil revenues and more. Everything should be backed up with a positive message though.

It's the problem I have with Jim Mather. He constantly goes on about the disastrous economic situation we're in. This is fine as an argument, but there is too little heard about how independence will change that. Too often folk are left with the impression that our economy is in such a state that we would never be able to survive without the UK. This just serves to back up the Unionist argument that we are too poor to go it alone etc.

saltire1320 · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:06 am Post subject:

The reason we post on here is because of our unswerving dedication towards the achievement of Scottish independence.
However, not all Scots are like us (unfortunately).
The SNP needs to capitalise on matters that affect Scottish pockets and as such they need to be making far more of the McCrone report than they have done. The ordinary Scot would be far wealthier according to McCrone but not nearly enough has been said about it; largely because the Labour & Tory controlled tabloids (Record & Sun respectively) dare not mention it.
Sadly, these two rags are the most widely read in the country.
If we could utilise the mass media in Scotland, independence would not be too far away.

azzuri · 'Our Scotland' Fossil Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 3797

It's hard to utilise a media whos repsective HQs are in London.

I agree getting the Sun and the Record on board would be a massive acheivement - but I'm not even sure an SNP controlled holyrood would sway their thinking.
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SLG · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:16 pm Post subject:

Abieuan · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:16 pm Post subject:

SLG wrote:

patriot1320 · Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:08 pm Post subject:

I dont buy newspapers. I used to buy the sun but when it started supporting Labour I just couldn't be bothered anymore with the government controlled stories... Oh and Page 3 was good. Rolling Eyes

SLG · Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:30 pm Post subject:

Abieuan · Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:39 pm Post subject:

I don't buy any newspaper now either, all the tabliods really annoy me and i hope they become a thing of the past.

There is not so much need for them nowadays, i listen to BBC Radio Scotland during the day and look on the internet at night.

The tabliods are more like celebrity magazines than newspapers.

...and while i'm at it, all this celebrity stuff has gone way over the top - i have no idea who the majority of these people are and would not miss them one bit if they dissapeared tomrrow.

How about a new "celeb" programme where the public vote for which one gets shot next !

patriot1320 · Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:56 pm Post subject:

I also think TV is crap also... soaps drive me insane, why we are charged a licence fee when i dont watch the bbc anyway... I think america has the best TV..

SLG · Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:48 am Post subject:

wallacesclaymore · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:17 pm Post subject:

I personally think they need to get the younger voters on board.

They haven't had as long to make their minds up, apathy is largest in the younger generation and this is a big "gap in the market" if you will.

Labour tried this a few years ago when they (disgracefully) tried to hop on the "Cool Britania" bandwagon by having Noel Gallagher etc sipping glasses of champers at number 10...now, this is a good teaching on how NOT to do it. It was fake, it looked fake and by Gallaghers own admission, it was fake. It was BS and he conceeded this a few years later.

In short, Tony conned them. He plays guitar and was into rock music. He condasendingly thought this would appeal to people of a like persuasion in society and make him appeal more to the man in the street or the "working classes" (I HATE THT PHRASE SO MUCH BEING A WORKER MYSELF)....

Anyways...the SNP need to take the same idea and improve on it. Appeal to the youth, appeal to everyone but get all those undeceided, apathetic voters who...dont vote!!! They will be bought over with a POSITIVE campaign and somebody selling them something...as so many other campaigns of today work well with the younger generation.

This comes from one of the younger generation....obviously a (good) bit over voting age but under 30...if it would work for me, it would work for others.

Of course, all this could be well augmented by a good, uplifting, yet heart felt campaign song.... Wink

Mon' The Scots...

WC.
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SLG · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:47 pm Post subject:

IIRC the Scottish parties (SNP,SSP,GP) are well ahead in polls of young folk. One of the reasons why Labour don't favour lowering the voting age to 16. Young people are much less likely to vote though.

At the end of the day most politicians are unable to connect with younger folk due to their age/background, and are better off accepting that rather than ending up condescendng a la Blair. It really needs to come from the youth within these parties. The Young Scots for Independence (YSI) are growing a decent membership and have been getting a lot more active recently. AFAIK, the SSP youth are pretty active - I've never seen any in Edinburgh though.

One think we definately need WC is more up to date pro-indy tunes Very Happy

azzuri · 'Our Scotland' Fossil Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 3797

be interesting to see how the voting went however if they introduced either telephone or internet voting. this would make more youngsters vote no doubt - and probably see gains for the SNP, SSP and the Greens
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