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Dave Coull · Independentista Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 998

Who decides on these bits under the "Author" name on this Our Scotland forum? They just appear there, they are not chosen by the authors themselves. Some of them say things like "Findin ma way" or "This is ma life" or "Gaining a reputation". That's fair enough, but what it says under MY name is just plain wrong. It has just one word : "Nationalist". I'll be sixty six next month and I have never in my entire life described myself as a Nationalist. I used to describe myself as an Anarchist, but stopped using that self-description quite a few years ago now, because an anarchist is somebody who is against all government, and I can't be one if I'm campaigning for an independent Scottish government. But no way have I ever been a Nationalist. A supporter of independence, yes, but that's not the same thing. I don't mind if I get described as "wise guy", or "smart alec", or "argumentative old so-and-so", or "troublemaker", or even just plain "trouble", there would at least be some justification for any one of these descriptions, and probably some of the folk on here can think of quite a few more descriptions which they would like to apply to me but which should not be printed on a site accessible to youngsters. But please - NOT "Nationalist"!

SLG · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject:

Ok Dave, I'll sort it out. By the way, as interesting as most of your posts are, they are often hard to read when they are all in one big paragraph.

mairead · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject:

Aw Dave, c'mon.
Don't you think you are nit picking a wee bit. We've all been called Nationalist at some time on here. It doen't mean anything. Just indicates the number of posts or something and would change to something else eventually with more posts.
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Dave Coull · Independentista Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 998

Mairead wrote

> Aw Dave, c'mon. Don't you think you are nit picking a wee bit.

Nit picking ?????!!!!!!!!!!!

NIT-bloody-well-picking???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!

You've been listening to your good friend Carol, haven't you?

> We've all been called Nationalist at some time on here.

The difference is that most of the folk getting called Nationalist are okay with that description. I'm a supporter of independence for Scotland. It's not quite the same thing. Now, some folk are BOTH supporters of independence AND Nationalist. And that's okay, I recognise that and I manage to get along with most folk like that. Or at least as well as I get along with anybody. But I'm NOT both of these things, and this distinction is very important to me.

carol · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject:

I think Margaret is better suited for you Dave

mairead · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:58 am Post subject:

Sorry Dave, I did not mean that post in a nasty way, and also, I am definately no friend of Carol. I thought you were aware of that.
I am also having difficulty finding the difference between those who want Independence for Scotland and Nationalists, who also want Independence for Scotland. Surely wanting an Independent Nation makes one a nationalist, or am I losing the plot here.
Please explain the difference.
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Cymro · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:46 pm Post subject:

Many refuse to call themselves Nationalists because of the image of Nationalists = Racists, Nazis etc. Personally I don't regard racists such as the BNP as being Nationalists, they are Imperialists, but also Racists. The fact they call themselves Nationalists means nothing to me - I could call myself a bus, wouldn't make me a bus though.

For me a Nationalist is no more than a person who believes in independence for their country.

carol · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:27 pm Post subject:

found this on a dictionary link Rolling Eyes

Aspirations for national independence in a country under foreign domination.

I would say one proud of their cultural identity, for an indy Scotland, nationalists are also more known for being members of the SNP

Margaret I'd rather not be a friend of yours than unite behind a defunct fraudulent prince

Carol

mairead · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject:

Aw away and get lost Carol. You're flogging a dead horse and no-one is the tiniest bit interested anymore.
Sad that your would be 'claim to fame' failed, yet again, and you managed with your usual megalomaniac charm to alienate even more people. You really need to get a grip.
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mairead · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject:

Cymro.
Thanks for your reply. I am a nationalist in the sense that I believe in an independent Scotland. I do not believe in racism, religous differences or any other form of bigotry and my understanding of being a nationalist is simply a belief in a free Scotland, therefore I have no problem being called a nationalist.

Just checked a dictionary and it gives the definition of Nationalism as 'Devotion to one's country; a movement for independence
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Babygael · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:26 pm Post subject:

Hi auntie M ! That makes me a Nationalist then, which is admittedly, A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN "GETTING ON A BIT!" LOL!! From a gurrrls perspective anyway! Wink

Carol, wot is a defunct fraudulent Prince pray tell please? Sounds very mysterious indeed!!! Cool

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Cymro · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject:

mairead · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject:

BG.
Carol is referring to Michael of Albany who, for many years was believed by the Jacobites, including me, to be the heir to the Stewart titles.
Carol, one time friend of Albany, but always one to grab the limelight, jumped on another guy's bandwagon and proceeded to expose him as a fraud, much to the shock and hurt of loads of folk who had grown to love the man.
Since then she has, at every opportunity continued to spout her venom at those of us who believed in Albany. She gets some kind of weird kick out of it.
Now had she exposed Albany in a literate and sensible manner, things might not have been too bad, however she chose to insult the integrity of many people in many forums, with her foul abuse and vicious name calling, then of course gets upset when folk respond to her in kind.
As you can see, here and elswhere, she is continuing to harp on and on about Albany, , thinking it will bring her that which she craves most, heaps of praise for her treacherous betrayal.
All this happened well over a year ago, but still she trawls it up again and again, and no-one is really interested now in yesterdays news.

Hope that explains things a bit for you, at least about the'defunct prince'.
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Babygael · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject:

Ave goat th' picture noo' thank ye kindly! Cool

So it is not safe to assume that Prince charlie has living rellies today? I mean fur such a randy guy, how is that possible? Shocked

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mairead · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject:

Aye BG, there are other bloodline rellies. probably hundreds of them by now I would think. We are working on that at present.
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carol · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject:

carol · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject:

carol · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject:

Babygael · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject:

So what I don't get is wots the big deal? Surely Scotland will never have a Monarchy (Scottish) again? Its just an interesting bit of detective work and if he's the real deal, well so much the better! It makes life more interesting! No?
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mairead · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject:

Carol,
Maybe not, but I sure do recognise a self important attention seeking egotist who is so full of bile she can't let go of the past and thinks anyone is interested.
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