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Reluctant Hero · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject: Car drives into Glasgow Airport

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6257194.stm

Car on fire crashes into airport

A car on fire has been driven at the main terminal building at Glasgow Airport before exploding, police have confirmed.
Eyewitnesses have described a Jeep Cherokee being driven at speed towards the building with flames coming out from underneath.

They have also described seeing two Asian men, one of whom was on fire, who had been in the car.

The airport has been evacuated and all flights suspended.

One eyewitness said: "I heard the sound of a car's wheels spinning and smoke smoke coming out.

"I saw a Jeep Cherokee apparently as if it was trying to get right through the doors into the terminal building.

"There were flames coming out from underneath then some men appeared from in amongst the flames.

"The police ran over and the people started fighting with the police. I then heard what sounded like an explosion."

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LAz · Activist Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 113

Ah darn, I reposted it in another subforum.

Here's that updated article.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200706..._ylt=AktZ7eTkaWGuRglhqeiwQzqs0NUE

We're seeing islamic terror as it spreads through europe. Their religion is against assimilation, so this will probably happen again and be more and more often.

rosalittlehooses · Finding Ma' Way Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 11

WHAT: Scotland United Against Terror rally

WHEN: Saturday 7 July, 2pm

WHERE: George Square, Glasgow

Mosques and Islamic organisations in Glasgow have called for a rally on Saturday to demonstrate their resolve against terrorism. It will take place one week after the Glasgow Airport attack, with it also being the second anniversary of the July bombings.

They are inviting everyone in Scotland to take part, under the title “Scotland United Against Terror”. Faith leaders, churches, trade unionists and others in civic society have been invited to attend, while Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has confirmed she will speak.

Commenting, Osama Saeed, one of the organisers said:

“The incident today in Riddrie [someone backed a car into an Asian shop and set it on fire] underscores the need to emphasise community cohesion at this point.

“We have a simple equation facing us. We have the terrorists on one side, and the rest of Scotland against them on the other – whether they be Muslim, Christian, people of other faiths or none. We mustn’t start accusing people of being terrorists when they plainly aren’t.”

For more information please contact:

Osama Saeed 07813 036238

Humza Yousaf 07776 196372

Rosa

SLG · Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject:

I've been very impressed with the reaction of the Muslim leaders. After the previous bombings in London, Muslim leaders in England seemed to be pretty slow to react, but here they seem to be doing everything right. Osama Saeed in particular.

LAz · Activist Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 113

RadgeJougal · Our Scotland = 2nd Job! Joined: 15 May 2006 Posts: 978

Actually they are bad Muslims. Suicide is against Islam, as it is against Christianity.

LAz · Activist Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 113

macnumpty · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject:

But assimilation isn't necessarily a good thing. Let's face it, if assimilation were the norm, this forum would be called 'Our North Britain'. Wink

In any case, I've had the pleasure to grow up, be educated and work alongside Muslims and members of other ethnic minority communities, and the dark picture you paint of Muslim men and women just doesn't ring true for me. Most of them hold many values in common with ourselves (so no need for assimilation), and where we do have differences, they express their view and respect that of others.

Most members of the Muslim community are honest, law-abiding people, good neighbours and, most importantly of all, good friends. Yes there are extremists, but there are on both sides: the fact that Muslims can be attacked just for being Muslims shows that. Does that make all white Europeans xenophobic fascists? Of course not.
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mairead · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:34 am Post subject:

Aye parkhead RFB, you are right there. 'If the papers say it it must be true'....
Our daily's are more like a work of fantasy these days. I've stopped reading them ages ago.

LAz
I don't agree with your comments at all. Are you suggesting there are no 'bad' people who call themselves Christians?
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macnumpty · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject:

I totally agree, Parky, and someone I know suggested 'placing them all in internment camps, like we did during the war with the Germans and the Japanese' (his words, not mine). All I said in response was, 'Like the Jews?'

That, I'm afraid, is the road we might end up going down if the popular press keep tarring all Muslims with the same brush.
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Babygael · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:30 am Post subject:

Laz said,

mairead · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:42 am Post subject:

Assimilated!! LAz,
Someone's been watching too much Star Trek.
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macnumpty · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:19 am Post subject:

As the reaction you've had to the idea of Scots assimilating shows, there are plenty of Scots who consider themselves Scots first and last, for whom 'British' does not come into it. If it were any other way, Scotland would have completely died the death shortly after the Act of Union.

So let me pose the question: why should we expect Muslims to integrate into Western, 'British' or even Scottish culture, when many of us are unwilling or unable to assimilate ourselves into 'Britain'?

And given our own refusal to integrate, when you say this...

SLG · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject:

LAz · Activist Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 113

The British and Scottish are very similar, as are other western europeans. They share many same values, which is what I meant when I was talking about assimilation. The muslims do not share these values as they are of a totally different philosophy.

Babygael · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject:

Ah but you see SLG what I meant was, should Scotland become like the Muslims because there is a Muslim community there? Or should they become as Scots? As LAz said, they don't really integrate well largely because of their religion, but are happy for you to integrate with them!

Like with the English wanting to proscribe anything Scottish in order to destroy Scots culture and rebuild it as British culture.Knowing full well it was the only way they could rule over Scotland peacefully. Turn Scotland into a land of sheep,the two legged and the four legged!

And as for my personal situation, apart from my colour, I live local,I speak the lingo like a local,I eat the local fare and enjoy it. But does that make me a bajan? Because I assure you they don't think so!! I will always be a tourist in their estimation even though I have a B'dos passport. I could have been here for a lifetime and it would make no difference. I will always be a white tourist!

So,you think I would pass for a west Indian? My pappy wud be shoaked! Laughing

No my ole hunni, ah kent wher' ahmm from! Unless of course you want to dispossess me from the earth?

SLG · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:18 pm Post subject:

Only about 2% of the population are Muslim at the moment. So I don't think there is anything to get too worried about. The different religion and the usually non-while skin colour do make integration harder than for some others. It does happen over time and over the generations though. And of course, they will have an effect of the majority as well, but it will be proportionate.

Look at the issues that are still apparent with the Irish in Scotland. Imagine how much worse that would be if they were of a recognisably different skin colour.

As for England/the English, I don't think you can compare the effect on the countries culture to be effectively ruled from another for 300 years. Especially recently, I think one of the greatest factors has been having a media that is mostly based in another country. Your average Muslim is not trying to impose anything on anyone else.

Holebender · Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:56 pm Post subject:

I don't know about Barbados but I know several white Trinnies who are regarded as nothing but Trinnies by everyone in T&T.

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