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Reluctant Hero Jim Baxter is God...........really!!!!

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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: McCann's - Guilty or No Guilty |
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What do you think? I think it is absolutely ludicrous to suggest that they were somehow responsible for Madeleine's disappearance.
There is no way they could have kept up that pretence if they were guilty.
Hope she is returned safe and well, but the more time goes on, the more unlikely that becomes.
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William_Cleland I need ma own bl**dy forum!

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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Something always struck me as a bit odd about what was going on with that. The parents in these situations are often more reluctant to stand in front of a camera. I'd like to think they are innocent but it is difficult to argue with forensic evidence. |
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SLG Born Again..........and still Scottish!

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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:09 pm Post subject: Re: McCann's - Guilty or No Guilty |
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| Reluctant Hero wrote: | | There is no way they could have kept up that pretence if they were guilty. |
That's what I feel about it. Could they really have gone through the whole campaign, meeting the Pope etc if it was all a lie? You'd think not, but then these things can spiral out of control. I think it's plausible, if unlikely, that something happened and rather than going to the authorities they tried to cover it up and it has got bigger and bigger.
All the other possibilities are very unlikely as well though. |
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Cymro Getting on a bit!
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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I really don't know about these two. Something is seriously strange about this case. This has got more publicity then anyother simmilar missing child case.
From what I'd heard the Police had found traces of the little girls DNA in a car the family hired after she was reported missing.
I do think it's only right that a link between the parents and the dissapearance is investigated though. Painful though this may be they'd be silly not too.
I don't think she'll ever be found though, and until then we won't know for sure who was responsible. |
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Rinty Jim Baxter is God...........really!!!!

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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| I dont think it possible to decide based on the news reports, its possible that they did something, its possible thats it just police procedure and there is nothing much to it. |
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Cymro Getting on a bit!
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Of course it is, but I also think it's pretty clear that the way this case was dealt with by the press and the authorities is completely different to how other missing child cases have been dealt with. I do feel that rightly or wrongly they have used the press, and now the Police are investigating them, they seem to oppose the media intrusion. Can't have it both ways I'm afraid, however tragic the case. |
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parkhead_rfb Collecting my 'Our Scotland' Pension!
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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you do all realise this isnt an episode of taggart here?
its a real family and a real wean thats went missing. i think having a poll on this is extremely distastefull. _________________ "our revenge will be the laughter of our children" bobby sands MP
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Cymro Getting on a bit!
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:40 am Post subject: |
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I'd agree the poll is distasteful. I don't think it's wrong to (within reason) discuss how the case has been dealt with though.
Have the Police been as bad as some make them out to be or could it be they just deal with things differently and we don't understand the Portugese criminal justice system?
Has the way the media been used been good, bad or wierd? |
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azzuri 'Our Scotland' Fossil

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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:04 am Post subject: |
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The media has been absolutely terrible, the Sun newspaper in particular.
I'm not saying that I don;t care about the disappearance of this little girl, but people have to put it into perspective. Madeline McCann is one of only THOUSANDS of kids to go missing in Europe every single year, so what's so special about this particular case that it's turned into a media circus? Every time I read or hear about it, I just feel like turning off the tv or closing the newspaper, the way the media have acted over this to give themselves a story makes me want to vomit.
If I were being completely honest, I'd suggest there are 2 reasons why this has been all over the media during the last few months;
1. It happened abroad, therefore being able to say, "Oh isn't that missing child case in Portugal terrible, that'd never happen in Britain" etc.,
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2. The media needed another tragedy to latch onto in order to fill their pages, and what better than a British toddler going missing abroad to kickstart a bunch of campaigns with posters of her face featuring 'The Sun' logo.
It's a tragedy for the family, as it is for all families who have to go through this sort of thing. You wonder what other families who have had children gone missing are thinking over this full affair and the media coverage aligned with it? _________________ "Gordon Brown mistook a glut of cheap money and a global bull market for his own administrative genius. In so doing, he wrecked the economy. Had the Prime Minister been running a company, instead of a country, he would be facing an inquiry into allegations of criminal negligence." - Jeff Randal
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sgmillerton 3 Strikes - Banned!

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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:30 am Post subject: |
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i have to say my impressiion of gerry mcann is of a somewhat controlling character, i just do not trust him despite the media giving him a halo. and all these relatives who, i feel are having there 15 minutes of fame decrying the potrugese cops as some sort of ramshackle gang of idiots.
i do believe that this may well end up as some sort of minor diplomatic crisis between the portugese govt. and the british govt. considering the mudslinging going on.
i also feel that those attemtion seekers, philomeena and gerry mcann will end up with egg on their faces with their undignified outburst's. _________________ available now at aw ra pyooor besht stalls at ra barra's n that, know!!! oh teashoci teashoci, teashoci teashoci! |
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Cymro Getting on a bit!
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Personally I hope they didn't do it - on purpose or a tragic accident, as the ones who will suffer most are their families, the people who every day have been on the front pages and the news supporting the parents and trying (rightly or wrongly) to do what they thought best.
Part of me doesn't think we'll ever get the answer - the little girl won't be found, we won't know what happened, the parents will have this tag of 'did they didn't they' hanging over them and the case will just become forgotten. Which is probaby the saddest outcome for everyone. |
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sgmillerton 3 Strikes - Banned!

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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| Cymro wrote: | Personally I hope they didn't do it - on purpose or a tragic accident, as the ones who will suffer most are their families, the people who every day have been on the front pages and the news supporting the parents and trying (rightly or wrongly) to do what they thought best.
Part of me doesn't think we'll ever get the answer - the little girl won't be found, we won't know what happened, the parents will have this tag of 'did they didn't they' hanging over them and the case will just become forgotten. Which is probaby the saddest outcome for everyone. |
who do you hope did do it?
a gang of kiddie snatchers roaming holiday resorts?
robert murrat?
i saw this on another forum 'hoping they did not do it' utterley bizzare. _________________ available now at aw ra pyooor besht stalls at ra barra's n that, know!!! oh teashoci teashoci, teashoci teashoci! |
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Cymro Getting on a bit!
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:29 am Post subject: |
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| Well obviously as a normal person I'd be hoping she's still alive. However if I'm going to be cold about it, I think she has been killed. In terms of who I'd rather have done it then anyone but the parents, the reaction if it turns out they where involved will be unimaginable due to their audience with the Pope, Beckham TV Advert etc. |
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sgmillerton 3 Strikes - Banned!

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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| Cymro wrote: | | Well obviously as a normal person I'd be hoping she's still alive. However if I'm going to be cold about it, I think she has been killed. In terms of who I'd rather have done it then anyone but the parents, the reaction if it turns out they where involved will be unimaginable due to their audience with the Pope, Beckham TV Advert etc. |
more fool them (pope, beckham etc) for getting involved. i do not disagee with what you say and hope nshe is alive but i ask again who would you prefer to have done it if not the parents. this is not murder-idol. chances are it was the parents going by how the vast majority of children who are murdered are done so by prents/relatives. _________________ available now at aw ra pyooor besht stalls at ra barra's n that, know!!! oh teashoci teashoci, teashoci teashoci! |
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Cymro Getting on a bit!
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry but asking me who I'd prefered to have kileld a little girl if not her parents is just f***ing daft. |
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sgmillerton 3 Strikes - Banned!

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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Cymro wrote: | | Sorry but asking me who I'd prefered to have kileld a little girl if not her parents is just f***ing daft. |
i know, and with all respect, as daft as saying who you would prefer it would not be. _________________ available now at aw ra pyooor besht stalls at ra barra's n that, know!!! oh teashoci teashoci, teashoci teashoci! |
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Cymro Getting on a bit!
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't agree. I explained to you why. It's all well saying "yeah well they shouldn't have got involved" but the truth is they did. The impact if it turns out that it was them behidn it all along will be far more long reaching than if it was another person, however disgusting the crime committed. |
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sgmillerton 3 Strikes - Banned!

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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Cymro wrote: | | I don't agree. I explained to you why. It's all well saying "yeah well they shouldn't have got involved" but the truth is they did. The impact if it turns out that it was them behidn it all along will be far more long reaching than if it was another person, however disgusting the crime committed. |
i still disagree with you but i do agree that it may make 'celebs' and publicity whores think twice b4 jumping onto any bandwagon they can to get some good pr. _________________ available now at aw ra pyooor besht stalls at ra barra's n that, know!!! oh teashoci teashoci, teashoci teashoci! |
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Cymro Getting on a bit!
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Pope = Celeb or Publicity whore?
Well I've heard him called a lot of things, but thats a new one! |
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sgmillerton 3 Strikes - Banned!

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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Cymro wrote: | Pope = Celeb or Publicity whore?
Well I've heard him called a lot of things, but thats a new one! |
publicity whore?
ach you know what i meant.
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