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Economist · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:14 am Post subject:

Excellent news, if true. I'm not entirely convinced that it is, though, especially if the leadership in Scotland is not too keen on the idea.

Of course if the Tories do want to settle the issue, they will of course support a direct question on independence (ie yes or no) none of this multiple option, express your preference numerically, s***e that we went through with the LibDems.
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Avatar · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject:

I saw this on the front page of SoS in the 24 hour garage last night, I thought someone had spiked my drink.

If it is true its going to be a kick in the teeth to the Lib dems Laughing

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SLG · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject:

I'll be very surprised if this actually makes it to a vote in parliament from the Tory group. Great if it does though - especially if it opens the door to a one-question referendum. At the end of the day I just think they'll be too scared to test public opinion for real.

kevin04 · Standing in a Council Ward Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 462

I agree with SLG,

Excellent news if true but already Goldie is putting a wee distance around her stance and the news, It's a real kick in the teeth for the libs as well if true, if this goes through the libs would have lost their extra cars and ministerial seats in a coalition for nothing

Holebender · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject:

F*** the Liberal Democrats. They deserve a good kick in the teeth.
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SLG · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject:

I think they might be starting to realise that. Will be interesting to see how they react.

Niall · Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:40 am Post subject:

Some of my Clients are Conservatives and to be blunt most business people are. Politics and independence often come up when I am speaking to them and more and more of them actually favour independence because of the far greater opportunities opened up for business than presently exist under the union which is dominated by the business policies of the City of London.

Two of my Clients are Conservative activists and are pushing hard for the Scottish Conservative party to drop its links with the English Conservatives and also drop the 'Unionist' part of the name. They take the view that the Conservatives are the party of Business and also that the conservatives are the best party to manage Independence.

This viewpoint is shared by a sizable number of party members and it is only the 'Old Guard' like Annabel Goldie that prevents the party from taking this new road. A sizeable head of steam is brewing and it will not be long before the old guard is removed in a coup and the 'New Scottish Conservatives' replace them. This would in effect make them the natural allies of the pro Independence parties.

The 'New Scottish Conservatives' would have distanced themselves from Thatcherism which was never really popular with the Scottish Conservatives when she was in power. Her policies were regarded as too extremist and anti Scottish. This would make them far more electable and Scotland does need a right wing party to balance the preponderance of left wing parties who do not understand business and whose policies are holding Scotland back. Gordon Brown is one such politician who does not understand how business, especially small business works. The SNP with the exception of the Scottish Enterprise party, are possibly the most 'Pro Business' party in Scotland today.

Scotland needs a flourishing business sector because only business can generate the wealth and taxes that Scotland needs to tackle our obscene levels of poverty and deprivation. An Independent Scotland needs to be run by people who themselves are successful business people and can drive the economy forward. I firmly believe that an independent Scotland with the right business policies can be the economic powerhouse of northern Europe in the same way that Switzerland is the power house of Southern Europe.

I am presently working on a paper called "The Economics of Independence" commissioned by The Scottish Enterprise Party. I have taken the UK Governments statistics for the year 2005/2006 and extrapolated them pro rata as if Scotland were already independent. The paper is not quite finished as I still have to finish researching balance of payments and GDP. However I believe the final result will show that Scotland can go it alone and would do even better outside the EU like Iceland, Norway and Switzerland.

For far too long, Scotland has been battered by the unionists 'Big Lie' which has convinced Scots that Scotland is an economic basket case. My two papers 'The Big Lie' (2000) and 'The Great Deception-GERS-2005' (March 2007) have blown the unionists lies out of the water. GERS told Scots that Scotland needed an English subsidy of £11.2 Billions a year to remain solvent. I was able to prove that Scotland contributed a surplus of £9.632 Billion. This figure has been acknowledged as correct by the UK treasury who confirmed the accuracy of my figures.

I hope the New Conservative activists get their way and boot out the unionist old guard and that an envigorated pro independence Conservative party will take its place. This would be the catalist for the pro Independence Labour and Lib Dems to switch sides and thus bring a referendum within reach followed thereafter by full independence and the fulfillment of the inscription on Jacobite Swords: "Prosperity and No Union!"

'S mise le meas
Niall.
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Economist · Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:18 pm Post subject:

mac · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:48 am Post subject:

Bring it on.

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