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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:15 am    Post subject: Battlefields. Reply with quote

For three years I have been campaigning to save the Sheriffnuir battlefield from destruction, and to prevent the desecration of the graves of our ancestors who lie on that field.
After a great deal of pressure on them, at last Historic Scotland are making a move and are running a questionaire on their site as to whether or not all Scottish battlefields should be protected by law as they are in England.
The deadline for the Sheriffmuir consultation is the 28th July and I would urge all those who seek to preserve our heritage to go into Historic Scotland's site and help save this site and any future battlesites which some consortium seeks to destroy. It is important that our heritage and that of our children gets the protection of the law.

www.historic-scotland.gov.uk



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most battlefield are on land of value on major roads, which is why people thought them worth fighting over in the first place. They also tend to be flat & relatively uninteresting which is why they make good battlefields. We already list enough buildings to cost the country 10s of billions each year & this would be starting another open ended commitment (what counts as a battle & how large the area covered are both subjective).

I think Historic Scotland are a big enough & parasitic enough quango as it is.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having been to Sheriffmuir I can tell you that it doesn't quite fit that pattern, Neil. The "muir" bit is probably the clue on that. Smile I hope people are suggesting alternative routes rather than conducting outright opposition. The Denny Beauly upgrade is vital to Scotland's future. This link provides a wee reminder as to why:-

http://www.independent.co.uk/news...rejects-planning-bill-866957.html

[yes I know it is about England not Scotland, it just happens to be topical]
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fairly flat & near the A9 I would have said but you may know better Very Happy

However the Denny Beauly electricity upgrade is merely an expensive diversion from the fact that the"lights will go out by 2015" (as your link correctly says) if we don't do something serious to produce more.  The Luddites are pushing it precisely because it is a useless diversion.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The electricity cables could be routed underground, but the company say this is too expensive, however, they have already removed 52 pylons from the London area and put cables underground to make the place look better for the forthcoming Olympics.
Also, the Beuly to Denny power line is to be constructed to send cheaper electricity to the South of England, not to benefit Scotland.
If the south of England needs cheaper electricty, let them go to their nearest neighbours, France, 22  miles across or under the sea..
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspected the usual nationalist narrative would be lumbering over the horizon soon enough. Smile  The SNP are anti-nuclear power and will use their current control of the planning process to kill off any attempt to replace Hunterston B and Torness with new nuclear facilities. That means they want to see a massive build up in renewables instead in order to keep the lights on in the central belt. To accomplish that the Denny Beauly upgrade is an absolute must.

http://www.scottishrenewables.com...c0202-1493-433a-8b0f-e4bcb66f0e98
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cables can be buried, but it costs 80 times more than running overhead lines. Just so you have an idea of the numbers involved.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mairead wrote:
The electricity cables could be routed underground, but the company say this is too expensive, however, they have already removed 52 pylons from the London area and put cables underground to make the place look better for the forthcoming Olympics.


Is Perth applying for the 2016 games?

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Also, the Beuly to Denny power line is to be constructed to send cheaper electricity to the South of England, not to benefit Scotland.


It's a National Grid...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also, the Beuly to Denny power line is to be constructed to send cheaper electricity to the South of England, not to benefit Scotland.
Not so. It is to supply electricity, insofar as windmills prduce it to the nearewst place needing it. When the lights go out in the central belt that will be us.
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If the south of England needs cheaper electricty, let them go to their nearest neighbours, France, 22  miles across or under the sea..
They already do. About 5% of UK electricty is French nuclear. This is already keeping the lights on there. Because of the distance it is less practical for Scotland to survive on French nuclear.

As we can see many political activists in Scotland are doing as much as they possibly can to ensure ever higher electricity prices (they are already 3 times what they should be) & ultimately blackouts. As Mairead points out there are many other ways of increasing the price if that is desired.



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