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| Congal |
'Armed Struggle' ?Source......Pig In The Middle.....'The armed struggle'.. or murder campaign. 'A bomb blast in a confined space is devastating. First the shock waves spreads out,faster than the speed of sound. Some heavy objects deflect the waves,but other solid material is changed instantly into gas,creating an enormous increase in volume and pressure. People in the way can have their limbs torn off,and in the millisecond which follows the energy waves go into their mouths and upwards,taking away the tops of their skulls and other parts of the body so that sometimes all that is left is the spine,held together by the vertebrae. The shock wave, travelling at some 13,000 miles per hour,pulverises the floor immediately below the explosion. It slows down quickly,but more damage is done by the blast wave which follows at half the speed. This has the pressure of pent-up gas behind it and it can also tear off limbs,perforate eardrums and smash up furniture,the pieces which in turn become deadly weapons. For a few seconds a fireball goes with it,singeing hair and removing eyebrows and eyelashes. Then the blast wave wave bounces off the walls,reinforcing the original explosion and very probably brings down the roof on the people below.' All in the name of holy mother Ireland 
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| Rinty |
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This is just deliberately inflammatory. By saying "holy mother" you imply some sort of catholic angle when most bombs were deployed by peopl whose motives were political or nationalist not religious. By using this phrase you attempt to draw together the issue of terrorism to catholics, and to rile RFB. http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/h...may/17/newsid_4311000/4311459.stm |
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| Congal |
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I think you are wrong. There was no intentional attempt by me to rile anyone. This is how it is referred to by many Roman Catholic people. During the hunger strikes the term was frequently used in the Irish News notices both for those 'on the blanket' and those who died. I had never heard it used until then. I simply used their description. But it does speak volumes. When you sized on that one thing and ignored the damage their bomb does. rbf can rile people too by his defence of murderers. I wonder if someone was on here defending the actions of the uvf or uda would that be o.k. |
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| Congal |
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Why show me about the Dublin bomb. I condemn it. Whats your point. Can we hear the same as regards ira atrocities from rfb and yourself. |
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| Rinty |
yFro me? Absolutely. But I will not treat them as something that are related to terms such as "holy mother" and I will not allow myself to be deluded that it is all about "bad" men. There are histories and reasons for violent reactions and campaigns, they dont happen in isolation.I condemn IRA bombs yes, but I also have an understanding of how they came about and condem, dont deny, the circumstances in which violence as a political tool flourished. I showed a link to the Dublin and Monaghan bombs to highlight that your attempt to link the bombs with catholicism was bogus! |
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| Congal |
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I can honestly say it wasn't an attempt as you describe. I just threw it in at the end as a throw away comment. Thats how Catholics refer to Ireland sometimes. I didn't even in my mind link the two,I wasn't even thinking along those lines. But I can see how it could be taken. Seeing you have raised that point now. Lets face the facts about it, the ira draw the vast majority of their membership from the Roman Catholic community.......its a fact of life. Likewise the uvf/uda draw the vast majority of their membership from the Protestant community. These are facts of life in Ulster and I don't think it serves any purpose by trying to deny this or dress it up in some other way. Thats not to say that all Catholics support the ira or all Protestants the loyalist para-militaries. |
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