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landg

alex salmond and the televised leadership debates

for the westminster debates.
as mr salmond is not standing as an MP never mind UK prime minister why on earth should he be in on these debates?
i suggest one of the debayes be in scotland and the FREEEEEEDOM mp could represent the snp against the 3 big parties. thats reasonable.
Holebender

What is reasonable is equal representation for all major political parties in Scotland in any debate broadcast in Scotland. Not only is it reasonable, it's a legal requirement.

I'm sure you don't have any problem with legal compliance, do you?

I should think it would be up to each political party to decide who to put up to represent them in the debate. However, as it is being billed as a leaders' debate, perhaps the SNP will be required to put up the party convenor.
Ultra

Holebender wrote:
What is reasonable is equal representation for all major political parties in Scotland in any debate broadcast in Scotland. Not only is it reasonable, it's a legal requirement.

I'm sure you don't have any problem with legal compliance, do you?

I should think it would be up to each political party to decide who to put up to represent them in the debate. However, as it is being billed as a leaders' debate, perhaps the SNP will be required to put up the party convenor.


In that case why don't the broadcasters also invite Nick Griffin to appear along side the leaders of the other parties?

It's only fair that this party has equal representation too.
Holebender

How many MPs does the BNP have? These debates are for a Westminster election.
tubalcain

Leaders Debate

We should also add the First Minister of Wales and N.Ireland followed by the leaders of all legally constituted political parties of the UK who have candidates standing in the election
Ultra

Holebender wrote:
How many MPs does the BNP have? These debates are for a Westminster election.


The BNP are still putting candidates forward for election. The same could apply to other minority parties or independent candidates putting forward candidates for the Westminister elections or even if they are sitting MP's.

The same legal requirements on impartiality apply for all parties.
Holebender

Indeed, why not?

Or have separate debates in each country/province with all the parties fielding candidates in that country/province taking part and debating issues which are relevant to that part of the UK. For example, no discussing the NHS or education in the Scottish debate because those are devolved matters.
Alasdair

Holebender wrote:
Or have separate debates in each country/province with all the parties fielding candidates in that country/province taking part and debating issues which are relevant to that part of the UK. For example, no discussing the NHS or education in the Scottish debate because those are devolved matters.


This is really the key point isn't it.  A leaders debate involving Brown, Cameron and the Lib Dem guy (again his name eludes me) will centre on issues such as health and education that really have no bearing on the issues for which westminster is responsible for in Scotland (and the other devolved areas).

Seperate debates involving the key Scottish figures would be of far more use to me, so yes the leaders of Labour, Tory and Lib Dems from Westminster, along with the SNP chap Angus Robertson is it debating the issues.

Really every party which is placing a candidate in more than say 10% (or some other arbitry cut off figure) of the applicable seats.
malcolmtucker

[quote="Holebender"]How many MPs does the BNP have? These debates are for a Westminster election.[/quote]

6 less than the bnp.
Holebender

Pardon? The BNP has 6 less(sic) MPs than the bnp? Does anyone understand that? Would anyone care to translate it into a language normal people can understand?
Alasdair

Holebender wrote:
Pardon? The BNP has 6 less(sic) MPs than the bnp? Does anyone understand that? Would anyone care to translate it into a language normal people can understand?


No, but it did make me laugh for the first time this week Very Happy
malcolmtucker

[quote="malcolmtucker"][quote="Holebender"]How many MPs does the BNP have? These debates are for a Westminster election.[/quote]

6 less than the bnp.[/quote]

oooooh, my mistake. i got the scottish and british NATIONALIST parties mixed up.

the bnp have 6 less seats at westminster than the snp.
Alasdair

That's right the BNP has NO representation in the entire Britsh isles (as far as Westminster is concerned), unlike the SNP who have representation at EVERY LEVEL despite restricting themselves to Scottish seats only ... so, what's your point?
October1974

SNP have 7 seats at Westminster - BNP nil. I cannot the BNP winning any Westminster seats next year or anytime soon under FPTP.
Stevie

malcolmtucker wrote:
oooooh, my mistake. i got the scottish and british NATIONALIST parties mixed up.



The 'ooooh' you are awful sense of humour belongs in the carry on movies.

Please don't write jokes if you're not funny.
kingkev

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Wee poll
mac

I am not liking being forced one way or the other - yet, I could be persuaded... Cool

This Tram thing is ripping my knitting Crying or Very sad
Aventinian

I think it would be perfectly acceptable to broadcast a debate featuring only the two major parties. Whilst I doubt anyone could argue that it gives any sense of equal coverage, who the hell would want that - the Scottish Christian Party being given the same amount of coverage as the Labour Party? The very idea...

There are, realistically, two people who have any possibility of being PM after the next election. Pit them against one-another.
Holebender

Ever the democrat, Aventinian.
Stevie

I for one would like to see Salmond destroy the Tory leaders GB and DC in public.  I'm quite sure the English electorate would wish to have a politician with Salmond's intellectual and political savy at the helm.
Fidget

Intellectual and Political Savvy? What has he actually done yet? Sure you're not just awarding him an "Obama Gong"?
Holebender

Well, he certainly runs rings around everybody else at FMQs.
Alasdair

Fidget wrote:
Intellectual and Political Savvy? What has he actually done yet? Sure you're not just awarding him an "Obama Gong"?


In fairness Salmond is considered to be something of a political heavy weight, even those who oppose his goals have admitted that in the past.
landg

Holebender wrote:
Well, he certainly runs rings around everybody else at FMQs.


a well trained monkey could run rings round the cooncilors at hollyrood.
i've seen jeremy paxman rip salmond a new one and he's not even a politician.


but i suppose if you have blinf faith in your leader you will think he is wonderful.
Corby Boy

Which Paxman  interview was that?

The couple of times I've seen Salmond on newsnight, he's made Paxman look like the arrogant t*sspot he actually is.

I for one don't think Salmond is the messiah by any means, but who measures up better than him in a fight Broon, Gray, Goldie, Cameron even? He seems to handle all of them deftly enough.
Stevie

landg wrote:
a well trained monkey could run rings round the cooncilors at hollyrood.
i've seen jeremy paxman rip salmond a new one and he's not even a politician.


but i suppose if you have blinf faith in your leader you will think he is wonderful.


Jeremy Paxman is pushy rude and always tries to kick his guests to bits.  I saw Salmond with Paxman and he certainly didn't 'rip Salmond a new one'.  Your lack of balance and clarity demonstrates bigotry and you understand events through a very narrow lens.  This is about as reasonable as your £2 Billion pound scammers figures... (oh, there it is again...)
Fidget

Alasdair wrote:
Fidget wrote:
Intellectual and Political Savvy? What has he actually done yet? Sure you're not just awarding him an "Obama Gong"?


In fairness Salmond is considered to be something of a political heavy weight, even those who oppose his goals have admitted that in the past.


Well, it can't be denied that he is rather portly looking.
Stevie

Heavy weight... rather portly...

Oh wait a minute, I get the joke...
Alasdair

Fidget wrote:
Alasdair wrote:
Fidget wrote:
Intellectual and Political Savvy? What has he actually done yet? Sure you're not just awarding him an "Obama Gong"?


In fairness Salmond is considered to be something of a political heavy weight, even those who oppose his goals have admitted that in the past.


Well, it can't be denied that he is rather portly looking.


Dagnamit, that'll be his westminster food allowance ... Laughing
landg

remeber mizz golsie compared his big moon face to a haggis.

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