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wisnaeme
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Another excellent piece of mischief.Another excellent piece of mischief or is it an attempt to actually hold senior civil servants and politicians to account for their actions as servants and representitives of those who employ them? I believe it to be the latter and if so,maybe,just maybe there may be some politicians worthy of government and of representing Scotland and the vast majority of her people's wishes.
SNP plan to criminalise pro-trident politicians by Paul Hutcheon.
http://www.sundayherald.com/news/...nalise_protrident_politicians.php
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How exciting
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Aventinian
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The SNP know fine well if they were in an executive no coalition partner imaginable would back this, and if it did by some miracle get passed it would be ruled ultra vires.
I suppose they might see that as a propaganda victory. Personally I see it as a waste of public money and malfeasance in public office.
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wisnaeme
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| Aventinian wrote: | The SNP know fine well if they were in an executive no coalition partner imaginable would back this, and if it did by some miracle get passed it would be ruled ultra vires.
I suppose they might see that as a propaganda victory. Personally I see it as a waste of public money and malfeasance in public office.
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So the oracle performing from the depths of the orifice has spoken then, " Aventinian" ?
I was led to believe that laws were enacted to allow for persons accused of wrong doing against the public good both collectively and individually to be called to account for their actions.
So it's a waste of time having laws and courts then to bring accused law breakers to account for themselves and their actions?
That the law is the law and that we are all equal under the law of the land. The land in question being Scotland where Scottish law prevails,don't ye know.
So a concerned public have placed trust in their Westminster representitives to act for them in demanding why their other MP's in the government have abused their trust and gone against the wishes of the vast majority of the Scottish public. I thought it was admiral that some MP's had the guts and convictions as an opposition party to call the government to account for their actions under the law of the constituencies of the land and of the people they represented.
And don't give the sh*te that it is in the union's interests of UK PLC.
Do the views and wishes of the great unwashed not matter and are therefore of no consequence then in the state, within a state?
"Personally I see it as a waste of public money and malfeasance in public office." Indeed, i agree with you. So why do you not understand or see the need for those responsible to be called to account for such to the public and to be seen to doing so in the public domain?
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Mctosh45
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Come on Aventinian answer the man
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Aventinian
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| wisnaeme wrote: | I was led to believe that laws were enacted to allow for persons accused of wrong doing against the public good both collectively and individually to be called to account for their actions.
So it's a waste of time having laws and courts then to bring accused law breakers to account for themselves and their actions? |
I don't see how this relates to my quoted post...
| Quote: | | That the law is the law and that we are all equal under the law of the land. The land in question being Scotland where Scottish law prevails,don't ye know. |
Actually no, I didn't know that. As far as I was aware, British and European law have legislative primacy over any sort of exclusively Scottish provision.
Anyway, the law is not that law, but that's a debate for another day.
| Quote: | So a concerned public have placed trust in their Westminster representitives to act for them in demanding why their other MP's in the government have abused their trust and gone against the wishes of the vast majority of the Scottish public. I thought it was admiral that some MP's had the guts and convictions as an opposition party to call the government to account for their actions under the law of the constituencies of the land and of the people they represented.
And don't give the sh*te that it is in the union's interests of UK PLC. |
Well then, to be frank, no one should listen to you. This is a British matter, paid for by British taxpayers. There is no Scottish dimension to it whatsoever.
To you, representative democracy is nothing more than a political bargaining chip.
| Quote: | | Do the views and wishes of the great unwashed not matter and are therefore of no consequence then in the state, within a state? |
The British public get their say at least every five years in a general election. They have, so far, continued to vote for pro-nuclear parties who believe the holding of nuclear weaponry is in the national interest.
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