parkhead_rfb
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artur boruc is a f***ing refugeeas sung by hibs fans yesterday.
i wonder if anything will be made of this particularly given the police had a massive presence in the celtic end to keep an eye on what was being sung.
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Cymro
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Is that actually racist though? Obviously it's factually incorrect but I'm sure half of those called Bastards in the average football game have got fathers too, and am I to believe that every Orange Bastards resembles the Tango Man ? 
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sgmillerton
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he is not a refugee as i'm sure celtic will have to have all the relevant home office paperwork completed b4 he can be employed by a british football club.
i wonder if anything will be done about artur borat AGAIN gesturing at oppostion fans.
not holding my breath there as the sfa always side with the old firm bigots.
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parkhead_rfb
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i dont really think the fact he's not a refugee matters as we all know why they are singing it.
also if your going to racially abuse people you can take stick back.
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kevin04
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They sung against Rudi Skackel as well a few years back and there's a clip of Deek Riordan looking quite worse for wear singing it as well in some pub, maybe the hibees fans need a wee look at international affairs. Czech Republic and Poland are part of the EU
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Cymro
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"Boruc is an economic migrant" probably doesn't sound as good for a song.....
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SLG
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Did the singing ruin your enjoyment of the game parkhead 
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sgmillerton
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poor mr. borat.
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parkhead_rfb
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| SLG wrote: | | Did the singing ruin your enjoyment of the game parkhead |
hibs probably deserved the win so i dont have complaints with that.
I just think its terrible that celtic fans get hassled for singing the irish national anthem yet songs like this go unmentioned.
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sgmillerton
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a good point, it is very unfair when football clubs are chastised for singing their 'anthems'. mind you the singer is not the judge and jury of the offensiveness of their songs.
mind you celtic and rangers fans have been singing anthems of hate and murder for decades, hell mend those bigots at rangers and celtc.
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Rinty
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"a good point, it is very unfair when football clubs are chastised for singing their 'anthems'. mind you the singer is not the judge and jury of the offensiveness of their songs."
Absolutely. There is nothing wrong with Celtic fans singing "the fields of athenry" or rangers fans singing the "billy boys", its the changes to the lyrics and additional chants that are the problem. At that point, those who include the "extras" are sectarians who are trying to offend.
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sgmillerton
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f**k me sideways with a commie, we agree.
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Cymro
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| parkhead_rfb wrote: | | SLG wrote: | | Did the singing ruin your enjoyment of the game parkhead |
hibs probably deserved the win so i dont have complaints with that.
I just think its terrible that celtic fans get hassled for singing the irish national anthem yet songs like this go unmentioned. |
I'd have thought more people would be critical of this song than Celtic fans singing of the Irish National Anthem to be honest.
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sgmillerton
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only a bigot would criticise someone for singing a national anthem.
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parkhead_rfb
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| Cymro wrote: | | parkhead_rfb wrote: | | SLG wrote: | | Did the singing ruin your enjoyment of the game parkhead |
hibs probably deserved the win so i dont have complaints with that.
I just think its terrible that celtic fans get hassled for singing the irish national anthem yet songs like this go unmentioned. |
I'd have thought more people would be critical of this song than Celtic fans singing of the Irish National Anthem to be honest. |
you would be wrong then.
both in terms of the media and the police and stewards at football grounds.
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sgmillerton
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the media, police and stewards are all bigots then.
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Cymro
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| parkhead_rfb wrote: | | Cymro wrote: | | parkhead_rfb wrote: | | SLG wrote: | | Did the singing ruin your enjoyment of the game parkhead |
hibs probably deserved the win so i dont have complaints with that.
I just think its terrible that celtic fans get hassled for singing the irish national anthem yet songs like this go unmentioned. |
I'd have thought more people would be critical of this song than Celtic fans singing of the Irish National Anthem to be honest. |
you would be wrong then.
both in terms of the media and the police and stewards at football grounds. |
Oh come off it Parkie, this is just the victim status you like to bring out every so often talking again. Yes people are critical of Celtic singing the Irish Anthem, but people are more likely to oppose racist singing than expressions of support towards another country.
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parkhead_rfb
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| Cymro wrote: | | parkhead_rfb wrote: | | Cymro wrote: | | parkhead_rfb wrote: | | SLG wrote: | | Did the singing ruin your enjoyment of the game parkhead |
hibs probably deserved the win so i dont have complaints with that.
I just think its terrible that celtic fans get hassled for singing the irish national anthem yet songs like this go unmentioned. |
I'd have thought more people would be critical of this song than Celtic fans singing of the Irish National Anthem to be honest. |
you would be wrong then.
both in terms of the media and the police and stewards at football grounds. |
Oh come off it Parkie, this is just the victim status you like to bring out every so often talking again. Yes people are critical of Celtic singing the Irish Anthem, but people are more likely to oppose racist singing than expressions of support towards another country. |
why wasnt this song even mentioned then?
stv did a report stating that celtic had been reported for their fans behaviour at pittodrie...they then had to apologise when in fact that wasnt the case.
at easter road rows of police and stewards were strategically placed in amongst celtic fans, at aberdeen and inverness fans are routinely recorded by police with cameras. it doesnt happen to any other teams fans while incidents like this go unmentioned.
you wouldnt have even known about this song had i not brought it up on here.
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Cymro
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Probably because saddly it happens far too often to be deemed newsworthy these days, while issues involving the Old Firm and Secterianism are big news at the moment in Scotland given the ongoing campaign by the SFA, Scottish Executive etc.
Of course I wouldn't have known about it - I don't want Celtic matches, for the exact same reason I wouldn't have heard about Rangers fans singing Secterian Songs at certain matches if some people hadn't posted videos on messageboards.
I'm sure Artur is very grateful for your help though!
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parkhead_rfb
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| Cymro wrote: | Probably because saddly it happens far too often to be deemed newsworthy these days, while issues involving the Old Firm and Secterianism are big news at the moment in Scotland given the ongoing campaign by the SFA, Scottish Executive etc.
Of course I wouldn't have known about it - I don't want Celtic matches, for the exact same reason I wouldn't have heard about Rangers fans singing Secterian Songs at certain matches if some people hadn't posted videos on messageboards.
I'm sure Artur is very grateful for your help though! |
no its big news because eufa decided to take action against rangers. the sfa then decided to follow along so people wouldnt ask why they hadnt done anything about it for so long.
celtic were then dragged into this new circus by the scottish media when it had nothing to do with us. for some reason in the media it was said eufa were investigating "the old firm". no they werent they were looking at rangers after the closed doors game in milan where some lets say unsavoury songs could be heard being sung by the small number of rangers fans in the stadium.
i think there actually was a quote going about by a eufa official bemused why the media kept asking him about celtic when we had nothing to do with it.
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Cymro
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Why do you call it EUFA as opposed to UEFA? Not having a go here, just confused.
I agree the pressure from UEFA (and rightly so have made it a story)
I can imagine a person from UEFA/EUFA with no idea of the deep daft intense rivalry of the Old Firm being bemused about why someone would be asking about Celtic fans when they are rightly investigating the behaviour of the Rangers support. That wouldn't be a suprise really. It's bemusing enough for a football fan who actually follows Scottish football and likes watching the Old Firm teams let alone a person who doubtlessly monitor football matches across Europe day in day out (what a great job!).
Does explain though why the possible secterian behaviour of the Old Firm gets more attention than some plebs from Hibs singing that Boruc is a refugee!
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sgmillerton
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because we know old firm fans are horrible ned like bigots.
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parkhead_rfb
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| Cymro wrote: | Why do you call it EUFA as opposed to UEFA? Not having a go here, just confused.
I agree the pressure from UEFA (and rightly so have made it a story)
I can imagine a person from UEFA/EUFA with no idea of the deep daft intense rivalry of the Old Firm being bemused about why someone would be asking about Celtic fans when they are rightly investigating the behaviour of the Rangers support. That wouldn't be a suprise really. It's bemusing enough for a football fan who actually follows Scottish football and likes watching the Old Firm teams let alone a person who doubtlessly monitor football matches across Europe day in day out (what a great job!).
Does explain though why the possible secterian behaviour of the Old Firm gets more attention than some plebs from Hibs singing that Boruc is a refugee! |
I will never understand why the irish national anthem is more news worthy than racism.
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Cymro
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I didn't say it should be, all I'm saying is that given the current attention given in Scotland towards ridding Secterianism from Scottish football, any possible links, which includes proclemation of Irishness by Celtic fans (rightly or wrongly) in the eyes of the press. While racism, or in the very least xenophobia isn't currently deemed as news worthy. Probably because the campaign regarding Secterianism is a newer thing, while Anti Racism campaigns have been around for years.
I'd probably also say that Boruc is a Refugee isn't racist. Certainly uncalled for, and xenophobic but can't see how it's racist.
Can you please explain why you call UEFA EUFA?
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parkhead_rfb
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| Cymro wrote: | I didn't say it should be, all I'm saying is that given the current attention given in Scotland towards ridding Secterianism from Scottish football, any possible links, which includes proclemation of Irishness by Celtic fans (rightly or wrongly) in the eyes of the press. While racism, or in the very least xenophobia isn't currently deemed as news worthy. Probably because the campaign regarding Secterianism is a newer thing, while Anti Racism campaigns have been around for years.
I'd probably also say that Boruc is a Refugee isn't racist. Certainly uncalled for, and xenophobic but can't see how it's racist.
Can you please explain why you call UEFA EUFA? |
you should maybe get out in the real world and see how the term refugee is applied to people in everyday life. you might see then how that term can be used in a derogatory racist manner.
as for eufa its just a spelling mistake.
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Cymro
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| parkhead_rfb wrote: | | Cymro wrote: | I didn't say it should be, all I'm saying is that given the current attention given in Scotland towards ridding Secterianism from Scottish football, any possible links, which includes proclemation of Irishness by Celtic fans (rightly or wrongly) in the eyes of the press. While racism, or in the very least xenophobia isn't currently deemed as news worthy. Probably because the campaign regarding Secterianism is a newer thing, while Anti Racism campaigns have been around for years.
I'd probably also say that Boruc is a Refugee isn't racist. Certainly uncalled for, and xenophobic but can't see how it's racist.
Can you please explain why you call UEFA EUFA? |
you should maybe get out in the real world and see how the term refugee is applied to people in everyday life. you might see then how that term can be used in a derogatory racist manner.
as for eufa its just a spelling mistake. |
I certainly am in the real world, my previous emplyment included working for a Race Equality Council, I therefore had to deal with issues of racism day in day out. I am aware of a huge unawareness of what a Refugee is - in the same way people don't know what the difference between an Asylum Seeker, Refugee, Economic Migrant and Illegal Immigrant is. Many people actually believe you can be all of these!
Anyway, Refugee being a racist term - it clearly can be, however of all the raicst things a croud of people in a match can shout at someone, "Refugee", is very odd - even for racists!
And thanks for the explanation with EUFA just got confused.
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parkhead_rfb
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| Cymro wrote: | | parkhead_rfb wrote: | | Cymro wrote: | I didn't say it should be, all I'm saying is that given the current attention given in Scotland towards ridding Secterianism from Scottish football, any possible links, which includes proclemation of Irishness by Celtic fans (rightly or wrongly) in the eyes of the press. While racism, or in the very least xenophobia isn't currently deemed as news worthy. Probably because the campaign regarding Secterianism is a newer thing, while Anti Racism campaigns have been around for years.
I'd probably also say that Boruc is a Refugee isn't racist. Certainly uncalled for, and xenophobic but can't see how it's racist.
Can you please explain why you call UEFA EUFA? |
you should maybe get out in the real world and see how the term refugee is applied to people in everyday life. you might see then how that term can be used in a derogatory racist manner.
as for eufa its just a spelling mistake. |
I certainly am in the real world, my previous emplyment included working for a Race Equality Council, I therefore had to deal with issues of racism day in day out. I am aware of a huge unawareness of what a Refugee is - in the same way people don't know what the difference between an Asylum Seeker, Refugee, Economic Migrant and Illegal Immigrant is. Many people actually believe you can be all of these!
Anyway, Refugee being a racist term - it clearly can be, however of all the raicst things a croud of people in a match can shout at someone, "Refugee", is very odd - even for racists!
And thanks for the explanation with EUFA just got confused. |
I have heard the term refugee used many, many times in a racist manner.
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Cymro
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If you say so
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SLG
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Come on Parkhead. This was a silly wee chant that was aimed at Rudi Scatchel at the time when Hearts were bringing in loads of players from Eastern Europe. He was the target cause he was a decent player. Boruc just ends up in the same song cause he pissed off the fans and some kids aren't able to think up a new song for him. It's nothing for anyone from Hibs to be proud of, but I'm sure it's not making any political statement regarding refugees in Scotland or making any statement positive or negative regarding his race/nationality/ethnicity.
And you definitely won't get me or the vast majority of Hibs fans accusing you of anything for singing the Irish national anthem.
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