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| agentmancuso |
British Jobs for British WorkersThis guy is repulsive. But have a look at the front page of the 'Nationalist News' shown half-way down the page:
How would ye'all feel if the Union Flag was replaced by a saltire, and the word 'British' by 'Scottish'? |
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| SLG |
I think the way the Scots nationalist uses the word Scottish is different from the way the British nationalist would use the word British. Either way, whatever the underlying motivation or meaning headlines like these are far to open to negative interpretation and it's a dangerous game for anyone to be using them for their personal political gain. | ||||||
| Aventinian |
It's a meaningless sentiment, in my opinion. In fact, the only concrete meaning I would attach to such a phrase is an indication that the speaker/writer wants to deport foreigners and leave the EU; I don't imagine this is what the Prime Minister was getting at.
Appeals to patriotism and nationalism are never positive.
This would be an appropriate time to deploy that daft picture of an owl which seemed to cover the internet some time ago. Since I can't be bothered finding it, and I think it might be just a tad immature, I'll simply indicate my surprise. |
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| SLG |
Well it's quite simple, perhaps because support for Scottish independence is so mainstream and extends far beyond what you might think of as traditional nationalist thought, Scottish is almost never used in a racial manner (with obvious exceptions). Brown would appear to be courting the traditional xenophobic and racist British nationalist with his statement. As I said above, I would still be very concerned if any Scottish FM used such a statement. Btw, I have no idea what this owl thing is you're talking about! |
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| sgmillerton |
there is a saltire in the union flag and british also means scottish/english/welsh and irish.
right wing fundamentalist scum all the same. |
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| parkhead_rfb |
the job should go to the person best able to do that job and that should be the end of the story.
as a descendant of irish immigrants i am 100% against this type of crap. |
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| sgmillerton |
i don't know why but i find this really funny.sorry. |
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| Aventinian |
Non-traditional nationalist thought? I can't say I've noticed the difference, but I'm sure the Youth SNP are currently planning to make a jazzy T-shirt about it if it does indeed exist.
Exceptions, eh? Are we talking about Babygael here? 
Equally, British is probably even less used in a racial or ethnic manner. Indeed, in England there is a very pointed difference: "English" generally implies white, whereas "British" is the label used by most ethnic minorities.
I suppose. I don't imagine he fully realised what he was saying and the implications of it at the time. |
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| Aventinian |
Who? Gordon Brown? |
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| RadgeJougal |
Like everyone else here, I too am a descendant of migrants. But it makes no sense to dump a huge new pool of cheap labour on areas with high unemployment. It doesn't matter where it comes from, it is simply exploitation by bosses who wish to lessen/lower wages, conditions and industrial action.
What do tourists think when they realise that the lowest paid jobs in the country are all done by foreigners? That makes the bosses racists, but no one wishes to admit this. |
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| agentmancuso |
So it's not racist to complain that immigrants are 'dumped' on areas of high-unemployment, or that the lowest paid jobs are done by 'foreigners', but it is racist to employ people who will word harder for less. Hmm. |
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| Rinty |
and trueblue miller replied:
I do. It's because you hate parkie. You hate him so much that you even comment to say that you have nothing to say whenever he posts anything. |
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| Blackleaf |
What's wrong with saying "British jobs for British workers"?
I can't imagine the Americans thinking "American jobs for American workers" is "racist". Likewise the French, Irish, Germans or anyone else. But you know what the British are like with political correctness. The British workforce should be trained more, get more skilled, to do jobs that many of us aren't doing. Then we wouldn't need thousands of foreigners coming to thos overcrowded land to do these jobs for us. |
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| Economist |
Sickened. |
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| agentmancuso |
It's a dog-whistle to keep the redneck proles voting Labour, that's what's wrong with it.
Some Americans would: the decent ones.
The British can hire their labour on the open-market, based on their ability and willingness to work, not on their skin colour. |
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