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Reluctant Hero

Cameron Lays Out His Vision

David Cameron has made his pitch to be the next PM, but will the public buy it?

The Tories better watch they don't get too complacent though, or else they might suffer a Kinnock moment.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8296010.stm
Holebender

David Cameron wrote:
a Conservative government would roll back "big government" in favour of a "stronger society".

Ah hope the Auld Hoor didna hear thon aboot "society". It'll be handbags at dawn!
Stevie

Cameron lays out his vision... God help us all and save us from this son of a Thatcher.
Alasdair

Bravehand wrote:
God help us all and save us from this son of a Thatcher.


To late, she had triplets and named them: Tony, Gordon, and Peter.
Dave Coull

Re: Cameron Lays Out His Vision

Reluctant Hero wrote:
The Tories better watch they don't get too complacent though, or else they might suffer a Kinnock moment.
David Cameron and his closest advisers are doing their best to avoid sounding too triumphalist and suffering a "Kinnock moment". However, note that the Labour Party conference wasn't quite as much of a disaster as it might have been. It sounded like at least some of the Labourites actually intend to give Cameron "the Toff" and co a fight. It could get very, very dirty indeed. If it turns out to be more of a fight, then the outcome of the general election might not be quite as certain as it has seemed. Oh, the odds are still heavily on the Tories emerging with the largest number of MPs. But by how much? They are obviously not going to do as well up here as down south, and, depending on how badly they do here, that could present a Cameron government with an early crisis. Also, note that, at present, in any disagreement between the Scottish government and the British government, the Labour Party in Scotland will virtually ALWAYS side with the British government. But, at least so far as   some   in the Labour Party are concerned, that is liable to change.
Alasdair

I can't understand why traditional labour voters still vote labour, still the alternative isn't exactly palatable either.
Stevie

Alasdair wrote:
I can't understand why traditional labour voters still vote labour


I don't think they understand either.
Aventinian

Re: Cameron Lays Out His Vision

Dave Coull wrote:
It sounded like at least some of the Labourites actually intend to give Cameron "the Toff" and co a fight.


Yeah, and we all know how well gutter negative campaigning based on class goes down with the electorate...

Alasdair wrote:
I can't understand why traditional labour voters still vote labour, still the alternative isn't exactly palatable either.


Is there any alternative, palatable or otherwise, for the average old Labour voter though?

The Nats are nats, as are the SSP and other (let's not beat around the bush) dodgy left-wing factions. Then there's the Tories and the Lib Dems, with whom they'd have few ideals in common.
Alasdair

Re: Cameron Lays Out His Vision

Aventinian wrote:
Alasdair wrote:
I can't understand why traditional labour voters still vote labour, still the alternative isn't exactly palatable either.


Is there any alternative, palatable or otherwise, for the average old Labour voter though?


I suppose that just leaves a whole swathe of further disenfranchised voters.

aventian wrote:
The Nats are nats, as are the SSP and other (let's not beat around the bush) dodgy left-wing factions. Then there's the Tories and the Lib Dems, with whom they'd have few ideals in common.


Leaving the whole 'nat' thing aside, the SNP aren't exactly on the left in the same way as old labour ever where, although I think labelling them as Tory (which is Labour's negative campaigning north of the border) is a bit disingenuous, New Labour is mre tory than the tories are!  Whereas SSP and Solidarity are just a bit 'bonkers mad' in many policy respects (sorry rinty) and that Colin Fox, sheesh Rolling Eyes

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