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| Dave Coull |
Cameron the Last?Cameron could well be the last ever UK prime ministerHe loathes the idea, and is right to. But Tory cuts and a row with Europe only add momentum to Scottish independence by Jackie Ashley http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment...ameron-lisbon-referendum-scotland |
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| Corby Boy |
The comments after the article crack me up. Shear ignorance of some folk is mind blowing. | ||||
| Reluctant Hero |
I sincerely hope we are independent before that clown gets any more power. |
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| landg |
Re: Cameron the Last?
i love the speculation. chances are he will be YOUR prime minister in a matter of months. get over it. |
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| Holebender |
Get over it? Bring it on, I say, and the fewer Scottish constituencies his party holds the better! | ||||
| Ultra |
I am sure the Conservatives when they get elected will bring quite a few initiatives and policies to Scotland. After all, they will be the controlling majority party in the UK Parliament and have more of a say in Scotland than the SNP Government do. Then we will see how weak the SNP are in Government when people grow tired of them blaming the Westminister Government for cuts to local Government jobs and services while the SNP focus on an independence bill and do nothing. |
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| Holebender |
Can you see the wee problem in your cunning plan? You have just stated that Westminster will have more control over Scotland than the Scottish Government, so if people grow tired of hearing that Westminster's cuts are Westminster's fault the solution is fairly obvious; remove Westminster's powers. The only other option is to remove the Scottish Government, and I don't think that will go down too well, do you? |
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| Ultra |
Or you could replace the Scottish SNP Government with a majority Government from another party who do have the poer and experience to get billing through Parliament. Another obvious solution. Another option is to remove the Scottish Government like you have said as the EU Parliament is even more powerful and has a bigger say these days. The Scottish Government is another level of bureaucracy. We have councillors, MSP's, MP's, and MEP's all funded by the tax payer. |
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| urchurdan |
UK Prime Minister?Could I point out, he would be the last 'British' Prime Minister, as in point of fact, the Queen will remain as Head of State of the United Kingdom following Scottish Independence.The new Scottish State will not be a Republic unless a further plebiscite is held to determine whether we remain with the present Royal Family, Re-establish a purely Scottish Monarchy, or in fact to become a Republic. |
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| Holebender |
Oh, absolutely, but that would be a matter for the voters in 2011, wouldn't it? Unless, of course, you know of some other way to provide us with a majority government? |
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| cullen-skink |
Promising to treat Scotland "with respect" really says more about Labour failures than it does about any future UK government. | ||||
| William_Cleland |
This part of Jackie Ashley's article seems a bit dubious to me:-
The way Salmond describes his future Scotland is carefully calculated. He has been wooing the financiers and banks to rebuild Scotland's place as a financial centre. And he speaks, again and again, about the importance to Scotland of Europe. This is crucial because it connects to the Tories' coming war against European federalism. As Cameron, William Hague and the others get into a battle over the constitution and the future of Europe, the Scottish government will be offering itself as a pro-European bastion, just as the Irish did – and nobody knows better than Salmond what a huge financial benefit that once won for Dublin... She appears unaware that the SNP's main electoral stronghold in the context of Westminster elections are east coast fishing ports where support was initially gained based on the way that UK governments sold out the fishing industry upon entry to the EEC. She also appears unaware that a strongly pro-EU stance would risk tearing the SNP apart because many/most SNP activists have much the same mentality about the EU as UKIP supporters because they are genuinely nationalist. If the SNP were currently being led by Jim Sillars rather than Alex Salmond she might be onto something but it's not so the order of the day is ambiguity where issues like the EU and euro are concerned. Her arguments about financial benefits that the RoI received in the 80s and 90s also seem incredibly dated given the effects of eastward enlargement of the EU and slightly bizarre given the way North Sea oil and gas revenues would boost Scotland's GDP. Bulgaria and Romania are now very much first in line for financial largesse. |
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