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The Lithgae Jambo

David Kerr - this Sunday's instalment

Having got rid of one candidate for Springburn, the Sunday Herald is doing its best to discredit David Kerr.   Last week, it was Opus Dei and Glasgow Caley, today we have:

http://www.sundayherald.com/news/...dnews/display.var.2522137.0.0.php

Why the SNP’s Glasgow candidate pulled a gun in a public carpark


THE SNP candidate in the Glasgow North East by-election sparked an investigation by his BBC bosses after he brandished a gun outside a busy supermarket in the constituency.

TV reporter David Kerr was hauled before managers after pulling an air rifle from the boot of a car at the Tesco Extra in Springburn, Glasgow.

Kerr also had a pistol and a large hunting knife with him when he filmed a news report at the store last year.




Labour said the incident could have alarmed others


Yeah ! There was a reporter doing a piece to camera with a big woolly mike above him and everybody's immediate reaction would be that Al Quaeda were doing an arms deal with Wee Tam frae Springburn......




http://www.sundayherald.com/news/...dnews/display.var.2522137.0.0.php
Stevie

Personally, I can't abide biased journalism,  this is entirely the language of bias :

SNP perspective

The SNP insisted the gun was a "harmless replica",

Kerr's piece for Reporting Scotland considered what might have happened if Ross had made it to the guns.

THE SNP candidate in the Glasgow North East by-election sparked an investigation by his BBC bosses after he brandished a gun outside a busy supermarket in the constituency.

In June 2008, Kerr presented a report on murderer Michael Ross, who had leapt from the dock and tried to escape from the High Court in Glasgow. A court official stopped the former Black Watch sniper just yards from an exit.

An SNP spokesman said: "There was an alleged breach of health and safety guidelines involving a three-person production team which BBC Scotland looked into and all three were completely cleared.

"It was a harmless replica without a loading mechanism that the production team used in a news package as an illustration. This is clearly another dirty smear tactic from an increasingly desperate Labour party."

BBC perspective

After an internal inquiry, it was accepted Kerr acted with the permission of his immediate editor.

BBC Scotland spokesman said of the gun incident: "We looked at an alleged breach of health and safety and found there was none and no further action was taken."

However, he gave an undertaking to seek higher-level authority for any similar reports, the source said.

Pro unionist perspective
TV reporter David Kerr was hauled before managers

A BBC source claimed


investigated the incident

took no formal action against Kerr.

Labour said the incident could have alarmed others

Nationalist campaign looked "increasingly jinxed".

weapons stashed in a car


"a cache of weaponry


Holding up the rifle

BBC source  "Some people thought it was reckless.
There was even talk of him infringing the Firearms Act."



Willie Bain, the Labour candidate, said: "This is stunningly bad judgement from Mr Kerr

The SNP campaign in Glasgow North East has been one of its most accident-prone.

First, councillor Grant Thoms pulled out of the running to be chosen as candidate over unguarded comments on his blog. Then the official candidate, councillor James Dornan, stood down after only five days when it emerged he had failed to disclose serious financial problems.



Kerr also defended his membership of the ultra-conservative Catholic group, Opus Dei.



The point here is the journalists vocabulary is very hostile and the said spokesperson for the BBC may as well be made up.  The whole article shows bias from The Sunday Herald.  It's not despicable but it is pathetic.
chicmac

Once again the crucible of public scrutiny becomes 'The Crucible'.
Zed

There is obviously a propaganda war being fought just now. The media  is very much pro-unionist.
It looks like the orders from no.10 are win this by-election no matter what it takes or how you do it.
It has already turned into a dirty tricks campaign with Labour.
Watch out for more, lots more !
magister ludi

what is it about SNP supporters and guns?

I believe that the actor Sean Connery has also be seen on film with replica guns....a Walther PPK in fact.
He was also filmed with a mocked up Aston Martin with machine guns!
chicmac

Zed wrote:
There is obviously a propaganda war being fought just now. The media  is very much pro-unionist.
It looks like the orders from no.10 are win this by-election no matter what it takes or how you do it.
It has already turned into a dirty tricks campaign with Labour.
Watch out for more, lots more !

I think it more the GE they are worried about.  There isn't the remotest chance of the SNP winning in Glasgow NE.

Noticed they are even using that dreadful Soap River City to prepare the Scottish public for the Uscum onslaught.
Aventinian

Re: David Kerr - this Sunday's instalment

The Lithgae Jambo wrote:
Having got rid of one candidate for Springburn, the Sunday Herald is doing its best to discredit David Kerr.   Last week, it was Opus Dei and Glasgow Caley, today we have:


If that was all some sort of evil conspiracy to discredit him (quite why the Sunday Herald would be doing that is beyond me) why were the same concerns raised - with, I should point out, rather more forthright views being expressed - on this very forum by Scottish nationalists?

chicmac wrote:
Uscum


What does that mean?

Zed wrote:
The media  is very much pro-unionist.


The Sunday Herald is an SNP-supporting newspaper.
George

I'm still laughing at the claim that the Sunday Herald is an SNP supporting newspaper.

Anyway, this article is probably the funniest I've read in the smear campaign currently being conducted by the Scottish media.  My wife saw the headline and genuinely believed that this guy had, as a private individual, produced a gun in a car park.

When I explained the facts behind the story her reaction was that surely he had a case for litigation.

The story is as laughable as the claim above that the newspaper is SNP supporting.  Stories like these can only help to draw attention to what passes for journalism in Scotland.

I also believe that Labour have miscalculated by bringing sectarianism into the campaign.
Zed

Re: David Kerr - this Sunday's instalment

Aventinian wrote:

The Sunday Herald is an SNP-supporting newspaper.


You quite clearly are having a laugh.  Shocked
Zed

chicmac wrote:
Zed wrote:
There is obviously a propaganda war being fought just now. The media  is very much pro-unionist.
It looks like the orders from no.10 are win this by-election no matter what it takes or how you do it.
It has already turned into a dirty tricks campaign with Labour.
Watch out for more, lots more !

I think it more the GE they are worried about.  There isn't the remotest chance of the SNP winning in Glasgow NE.
Noticed they are even using that dreadful Soap River City to prepare the Scottish public for the Uscum onslaught.


I wouldn't say it was a lost cause. It will be very difficult for the SNP to win granted, but not impossible
October1974

When I started to read the article, I thought he did this since he was an SNP candidate. Only when you read further down do you realise that this was done for a BBC news package.

Next week expect: SNP candidate is anti-social keeping Labour voters awake at night. SNP candidate born in Dennistoun 35 years ago cried loudly at night in his first few months keeping the Labour voting neighbours awake at night for weeks.

The week after: SNP candidate flouts all laws in Springburn. David Kerr when aged 9 ignored the 'Keep Off the Grass Signs' in the local park.

Having done my first bit of canvassing in the seat, I was surprised by the reception expecting it to be fairly negative, the people are fairly friendly and I wouldn't say it was a hopeless cause at all. It will take a lot of hard work but it can be done.
Aventinian

Re: David Kerr - this Sunday's instalment

Zed wrote:
Aventinian wrote:

The Sunday Herald is an SNP-supporting newspaper.


You quite clearly are having a laugh.  Shocked


No, the Sunday Herald quite clearly stated in an editorial that it supported an SNP victory in the last Scottish Parliamentary elections. That much is indisputable fact.

The Nat belief that the media are somehow out to get them, when in reality they have devoted huge sections of print, television time and everything else to discussing Scottish independence when it remains the aspiration of only around a fifth of the electorate is ludicrous. If they did the same for, say, Socialism then they'd be roundly criticised and probably end up with OFCOM commissions set up to investigate.
Stevie

Anybody got any polls yougov etc.

If it's as tight as that and the SNP keep putting up oddball characters then it looks like a poor result is to be expected.

Ah, brings back memories of Garscadden and Keith Bovey.

I remember Donald Dewer rasping away with "The SNP bubble is burst".

He truly had an unpleasant voice and creepy demeanor.

Anyway, win or lose is irrelevant.
Win or lose the next Holyrood election is irrelevant.

The win that counts is the one where the SNP get a majority vote in a referendum with a hung parliament in Westminster and gain sovereignty.


Guns... I think it's a penis thing.
chicmac

Bravehand wrote:
Anybody got any polls yougov etc.

If it's as tight as that and the SNP keep putting up oddball characters then it looks like a poor result is to be expected.

Ah, brings back memories of Garscadden and Keith Bovey.

I remember Donald Dewer rasping away with "The SNP bubble is burst".

He truly had an unpleasant voice and creepy demeanor.
Anyway, win or lose is irrelevant.
Win or lose the next Holyrood election is irrelevant.

The win that counts is the one where the SNP get a majority vote in a referendum with a hung parliament in Westminster and gain sovereignty.


Guns... I think it's a penis thing.

Hehe! Always put me in mind of the Gormenghast Trilogy when I saw him.
Alasdair

Re: David Kerr - this Sunday's instalment

Aventinian wrote:
No, the Sunday Herald quite clearly stated in an editorial that it supported an SNP victory in the last Scottish Parliamentary elections. That much is indisputable fact.


Are you sure?  Did they not say something a bit more subtle, something to the effect that they supported the idea of independence and that the SNP should be given the room to show what they can do.  They followed this up with a number of front page articles supporting the idea that Scotland's economy could be self supporting, I'm not sure if this is a line they're still following, I've not bought it for a while but it was all sounding very negative for the last while.
Aventinian

Re: David Kerr - this Sunday's instalment

Alasdair wrote:
Are you sure?  Did they not say something a bit more subtle, something to the effect that they supported the idea of independence and that the SNP should be given the room to show what they can do.  They followed this up with a number of front page articles supporting the idea that Scotland's economy could be self supporting, I'm not sure if this is a line they're still following, I've not bought it for a while but it was all sounding very negative for the last while.


Under the title of "A vote for change is a leap of faith. It's a leap this newspaper is prepared to make: What we think" the Sunday Herald said "this newspaper is not convinced that independence is the best option for Scotland at this time. We acknowledge, however, that a vote for the SNP on Thursday is not a vote for independence" and then:

"The Sunday Herald has never been and will never be aligned to any political party. It is our job to monitor the activities of those in power, to challenge constantly their actions and to criticise whenever we believe it is justified to do so.

However, refusing to align ourselves to a particular party does not preclude us from offering our opinion on the best outcome. In this election, we believe that would be a coalition led by Alex Salmond. Like you, we can weigh up promises and add up economic policies, but in the end a vote for change is a leap of faith. It's a leap this newspaper is prepared to make. Here's to working as if we live in the early days of a better nation."


It is slightly more subtle, but it's certainly coming out for the SNP (but not independence).
October1974

In other words - anti Labour/Liberal Executive.
Alasdair

more like anti-labour if they were pro-coalition, at the time the most likely coalition seemed to be with the libs until they went a bit barmy and decided they'd rather be scotland's 4th party Confused
Zed

The latest rantings from Labour, apparently there was an SNP leaflet that didn't have candidate David Kerr's name on it.  Shocked

"Patricia Ferguson, Labour MSP for Glasgow Maryhill, said: "Local SNP members voted against Mr Kerr - the candidate Glasgow didn't want.

"We know they want to hide his controversial and snobbish views from voters but it seems they want tokeep his name a secret too.

"He has already made an number of serious gaffes, insulting our local university and waving a replica gun around Springburn Tesco."
chicmac

Zed wrote:
The latest rantings from Labour, apparently there was an SNP leaflet that didn't have candidate David Kerr's name on it.  Shocked

"Patricia Ferguson, Labour MSP for Glasgow Maryhill, said: "Local SNP members voted against Mr Kerr - the candidate Glasgow didn't want.

"We know they want to hide his controversial and snobbish views from voters but it seems they want tokeep his name a secret too.

"He has already made an number of serious gaffes, insulting our local university and waving a replica gun around Springburn Tesco."


Scary, isn't it?  The depth to which Labour go in that barrel with their scrapers serves only to produce 'issues' which are in fact an insult to the electorate's intelligence.

They demonstrate yet again, that they possess the memory capability of the paramecium (if not quite its judgement) and seem to have forgotten that they recently leafletted in a council by where they didn't even have a candidate. Embarassed

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