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| Pip |
Edinburgh Dungeon marks the Battle of FalkirkI'm a little curious what anyone here makes of this item.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel...s-in-revenge-for-1298-battle.html Perhaps I've got the wrong end of the stick, but if Dover Castle or the Cabinet War Rooms banned Germans for a day and encouraged visitors to tear up The Sorrows of Young Werther and smash beer steins then they'd lose my patronage until they issued an apology. |
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| Holebender |
I can't get the link to open but if it is as you say, I am disgusted. What a pathetic excuse for a publicity stunt.
I hope somebody sues them. |
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| carol |
I couldn't access the link either
here's the link from Edinburgh Dungeons http://www.thedungeons.com/en/edi...uide/william-wallace.html#content
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| Alasdair |
The link worked fine for me 
The idea (assuming it's true) is as stupid as many of the hypocritical comments attached to the story 
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| azzuri |
They aren't 'banning' anyone. It's a pr stunt whereby they are asking English visitors to sign an oath pledging allegiance to Scotland. I hardly think this oath is legally binding. Blown completely out of proportion, it's a pr stunt that has obviously worked, all the other tourists going to Edinburgh (just in time for the festival I might add!) will soak this up. | ||||
| Holebender |
A pr stunt that has obviously worked? It sound like a moronic idea which can only result in more cross-border emnity.
I despair at the crass stupidity of advertisers and whatever assorted numpties get paid for "pr". |
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| Aventinian |
Seems a bit over the line, really. | ||||
| Pip |
Maybe it was meant to me more tongue-in-cheek but it didn't come across that way. As it happens I might find myself in Edinburgh at some point in the next six months, but I'll give this place (and the rest of the chain) a wide berth.
As pointed out above some of the quality of responses on the Torygraph's website is disgraceful. |
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| Aventinian |
No worse than what the Scotsman and the Herald websites get these days... |
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| Pip |
I think they're all much-of-a-muchness. Wandering off topic a little, but I think a lot on internet postings show a phenomena a bit like 'road rage.' Safe in their own studies and living rooms people blast off with things they would never say in a face-to-face situation. I don't tend to bother with the reader comment sections of newspapers or the Beeb very often. |
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| Holebender |
The readers' comments tell far more than the journalists' articles, and your road rage analogy is spot on. | ||||
| azzuri |
Give it a miss anyway, it's s***e! It was certainly in poor taste, but I'm sure whoever was behind it did not intend to offend anyone. |
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| Lord Pitsligo |
Nice to see the Edinburgh Dungeon stirring up trouble again! I remember when they had "Satan's Grotto" for Xmas. It had the christians up in arms, which is usually a good thing 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/1687918.stm |
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| Blackleaf |
Re: Edinburgh Dungeon marks the Battle of Falkirk
You have to remember that people are allowed to be racist to the English. That's "Politcally Correct." But the English mustn't be racist to the Scots, Welsh, Irish, Muslims, Hindus, or anyone else, because then we're obviously a member of the BNP or Ku Klux Klan. I remember in 2006 when a a landlady, Angie Sayer, in Wedmore, Somerset, was accused of racism after using a Welsh flag as target practice during a St George’s Day archery competition. Being St George's Day, they wanted to fire arrows at a dragon, and the dragon on the Welsh flag was the only one she had. Locals in fancy dress used home-made bows and arrows to “slay the dragon”, which was pinned to an archery target. Two police officers arrived, interviewed her for two hours, and told her she was being interviewed for racial hatred! http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article671971.ece But I can safely assume that if a group of Welshmen fired arrows at an English flag they wouldn't have been done for racial hatred. In other words, it's racist for the English to fire arrows at the Welsh flag, but perfectly okay to encourage foreign visitors to destroy English objects at a tourist attraction. As one of the readers in the READERS' COMMENTS section of that article about the Edinburgh Dungeon says: "I remember England fans in 2006 getting slammed because some of the brian dead among them were singing "Ten German Bombers" and "My Grandad killed Your Grandad" in the middle of a German city. Was that a bit of tongue in cheek fun? Or racist stupidity?" And another: "As a Northern Irishman, who has recently served in war with fellow soldiers from all over the UK and beyond, I feel a great cultural and historical link with Scotland (after all we did conquer the country and give it it's name in the Dark Ages). However this article fills me with disgust. Having lived through the senseless hatred and violence of the current phase of 'The Troubles', it beggars belief that anyone would actively promote this kind of racist sectarianism in a relatively peaceful country. Shame on the organisers, and shame on the police if they do not enforce the law and put a stop to this Scottish equivalent of 'Krystal-Nacht' " |
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