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Jimbo

English accused of war crimes at Agincourt.

The alleged French accusation that the English committed war crimes at Agincourt, where hundreds of prostrate French prisoners had their throats slit on the orders of Henry V, have been commented on by novelist Bernard Cornwell and history blogger Robert Wilde from European History Guide.

Mr Cornwell comments: War crime? Battle of Agincourt was our finest hour.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net...r-crime-battle-agincourt-our.html

Mr Wilde comments: Last weekend British newspapers were up in arms about comments allegedly made by Christophe Gilliot, director of the Centre Historique Médiéval, a museum in Agincourt, France. He was supposed to have accused the British of perpetrating war crimes during the Battle of Agincourt.

M Gilliot denies making the allegations and claims to have been misquoted by the English press.

For the record: No Scots were involved in this atrocity on either side.
Runaway Weegie

Gilliot probably said 'les anglaises' and the translation 'British' was made by an English journalist.

Scots did fight in the Hundred Years War between England and France though I don't know if there were any Scots at Agincourt.

We fought for the French, naturallement.
Aventinian

Re: English accused of war crimes at Agincourt.

Jimbo wrote:
The alleged French accusation that the English committed war crimes at Agincourt, where hundreds of prostrate French prisoners had their throats slit on the orders of Henry V, have been commented on by novelist Bernard Cornwell and history blogger Robert Wilde from European History Guide.


Wouldn't surprise me, but it's a bit rich to accuse someone of war crimes centuries before the concept even existed.
Jimbo

Hi Runaway Weegie,

M Gilliot knows precisely who was at Agincourt. For him there was no ambiguity, for him, in this instance, England and Britain were not synonymous. It was the historical blogger Mr. Wilde, who substituted Britain for England.

Yes, Scots fought in their thousands on the side of the French during the Hundred Years war. From about 1419, Scotland had a standing army (which at it's peak was estimated 7,000 - 10,000) fighting in France.

A Scots army under the command of the Earl of Buchan defeated an English army under the command of the Duke of Clarence (brother of Henry V and heir to the throne) at Bauge, 1421, leading the Pope to proclaim that the Scots were indeed an antidote to the English. Clarence was killed during the battle.

No Scots were reported as being at Agincourt.
Jimbo

Re: English accused of war crimes at Agincourt.

Aventinian wrote:
Jimbo wrote:
The alleged French accusation that the English committed war crimes at Agincourt, where hundreds of prostrate French prisoners had their throats slit on the orders of Henry V, have been commented on by novelist Bernard Cornwell and history blogger Robert Wilde from European History Guide.


Wouldn't surprise me, but it's a bit rich to accuse someone of war crimes centuries before the concept even existed.


I agree Av'. Did you check out the link - see who originally posted it?
Blackadder

Let's face it ... back then, everybody was committing what we would call war crimes!

This just more of the revisionist PC brigade at work!!! Evil or Very Mad
Luke P

I've always found the concept of "war crimes" as oxymoronic as "friendly fire" or "military intelligence" since the whole conduct of warfare is itself rather criminal.
Morph

Aventinian its not often we agree but until the Hague convention in the late 1800's early 1900's so it cant be judged as such.

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