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| Stevie |
How long will Brown stay in power?How long will Brown stay in power?I think the day after the Euro elections and his ass is grass. Yet, the Labour party don't seem to have the same mechanisms for ridding themselves of leaders like the cut and thrust Tories do. |
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| Alasdair |
If he lasts until the Tuesday after the Euro poll he'll be in place until the next GE. | ||
| Rinty |
I voted for the last option as there wasn't one that says he will last about 4 months. Thats when the General Election will take place.
They won't oust him as whoever takes over would face a massive defeat at the election and take the flak for Brown. I reckon he will resign the day after the General Election, October probably. |
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| Stevie |
I would add more options but 4 seems to be the limit.
Rinty, you speak wisely but I think seeing the calamity that is Brown he'll get kicked out. However, can you imagine what will happen to Labour in England if he stays till the GE? I say England because I think they've bottomed out in Scotland. Still, I thought they'd bottomed out at 23%. In any case, noted at 4 months. |
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| Rinty |
they are going to get a kicking at the election whoever is in charge, a new leader wont want to start his reign with a heavy defeat. They will crown the new Labour leader in November, after Brown is forced to be the fall guy, quite right too. | ||
| Aventinian |
General Election, I'd say. | ||
| Stevie |
Apparently over 50 Labour MPs are standing down at the next Gen Election and his cabinet members are fleeing.
However, he just passed PM questions quite well. D Cam wants him to stay in power till the next GE. I may well be wrong, dumble might just hold on till the Labour Party are polling single figures next June. 18% Who would have thought it? |
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| agentmancuso |
Agreed with the various comments to the effect that "till the GE in c. October" would be a good bet. | ||
| Stevie |
New telegraph poll.
Tories 26% Labour 16% Libs 15% OTHERS 33% I think the day after the Euros sounds about right. |
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| Rinty |
Others 33%? Are you sure, a 90% turn out? Seems unlikely to me. | ||
| Reluctant Hero |
The others were UKIP 18 Greens 10 BNP 5 So I think there must be other "Others" which equate to 10% which will include the nationalists. But this poll was based on people certain to vote. It was suggested on one of the blogs I read that, Labour's vote would go up to over 20% if you include the undecided. Regarding Brown, there seems to be a letter about to be circulated by Labour backbenchers telling him to go. He has also apparently offered the job of Home Secretary to both David Blunkett and John Reid and they both declined. Crick on Newsnight said the chances of him surviving after the Euros is 50/50. |
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| Lord Pitsligo |
Given that Labour now seem to be at the "eating their own young" stage of fighting for survival, he could be gone anytime... | ||
| Stevie |
drole |
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| Reluctant Hero |
According to Iain Dale, there is another Cabinet Minister ready to call it a day at 10PM.
Would be brilliant if it was Darling 
http://iaindale.blogspot.com/ |
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| Stevie |
James Purnell quits cabinet, saying Brown should resign.
Oh, I think the end is nigh. Day after the Euros despite the logic of his continuing. |
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| Lord Pitsligo |
They've run out of their young to eat, now they're turning on each other. Pass the popcorn... |
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| Stevie |
It's a bit like the end of the film 'Pitch Black'... without a Vin Diesel. | ||
| Reluctant Hero |
Don't think he will last long now. The next question is will the new leader call an election at the first available opportunity? | ||
| Stevie |
Aye.
Michael Brown says quite rightly that the Labour Party couldn't continue for long with a second unelected Prime minister. But the Labour Party has a slow system for changing leaders. He'll have to resign... he thinks he saved the world so resignation is a question. I still think he'll go the day after the Euros. |
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| Reluctant Hero |
James Punell's resignation letter in full:
http://page.politicshome.com/uk/j...resignation_letter_full_text.html Worth a read
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| Reluctant Hero |
It gets worse for poor old Brown 
David Milliband is rumoured to be resigning tomorrow http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffee...d-miliband-to-resign-friday.thtml |
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| azzuri |
I think he'll cling on by the skin of his teeth until the GE in 2010. I think people underestimate just how stubborn Brown is and how little he actually cares what the MPs of his own party think. Most other people would have taken the hint by now, but Brown lives in his own little bizarro-world where he is always right and everyone else in the country is completely wrong.
People also underestimate just how spineless Labour MPs tend to be, I just can't see any credible candidate bar Alan Johnson coming forward, and he would only do so if Brown resigned willingly. |
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| Reluctant Hero |
Think you may be right azzuri.
Looks like he has got away with his reshuffle even though he bottled sacking Darling and Miliband. He is due to give a press conference any second... |
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| Reluctant Hero |
...and it was pish. For one second I thought he was going to announce a general election, but it soon became clear that he was just going to "get on with the job". |
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| Holebender |
He has a bizarre concept of "candid".
He reminds me of Aventinian in the way he uses words of which he decides his own unorthodox definition. It makes it so much easier to win arguments when you alone know what you mean by certain words, don't you know? |
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| Lord Pitsligo |
Crack out the popcorn boys & girls, meltdown in full effect! | ||
| Stevie |
You clearly see dumble more clearly t an I, labour MPs roared applause, suicidal party ambiance Bizarre Pity dumble is still git number 1 at number 10 I can't rite properly because I spilled a glass o ine on my laptop and some o t e letters o t e alp abet are dead ell done to all t ose o sa e ould rat er kill t e labour party t an cede o ice |
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| Reluctant Hero |
It was plain for all to see tonight. If the PLP are so behind Gordon Brown, how could they possibly let this situation to develop where the PM has to got to a PLP meeting and plead with them to back him. Totally spineless, the lot of them. |
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| Holebender |
Given that 61% of "Labour activists" believe that they can win a General Election and Labour MPs have shown themselves to be utterly spineless and none of them seem to realise the mood of the electorate, I have to say they are heading for utter destruction come the next election. Anyone who isn't a brainwashed Labour drone can see they are all in it together so they all need to be thrown out together.
Hell mend them. |
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| Stevie |
Wow! |
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| Reluctant Hero |
I know it is The News Of The World and should be taken with a fistful of salt, but apparently Ed Balls is preparing a leadership challenge in September if things don't get better.
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/n...et-rid-of-the-Prime-Minister.html |
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