Shagpile
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IranCould it be.....
A new cold war!
Fantastic, assured peace in that region at last. Well at least for a couple of decades.
Tell Brown to cancel his new power projecting Carriers.... we wont need them to invade Iran or Syria anymore!
Yipee! 
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Stevie
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Yep, Brown was stern faced and serious, meeting the challenge of the times in the face of inevitable disaster, leading nations to react against and in consort with his saving the world yet again.
OR
He was a dull unimaginative nonentity that nobody on the world stage likes or can stand but they can't explain why. They just know that they'd rather talk to the conference cleaning lady than spend time speaking to him. It's almost painful to see Obama tolerate him whilst wondering why he should have to and all the while Brown is smiling inappropriately.
Smiling in that sort of way where someone pretends to get the joke while not understanding the joke but hopes if he acts like a likeable chap people will like him and he'll make friends.
Wrong.
I just discovered he has a glass eye. That explains his 'dead eyes, shark eyes' look. It doesn't explain his pugnacious jutting jaw.
Yes, he's praying for a cold war this Xmas so that he can unite the country behind him.
Dear Lord, nobody would follow this fellow anywhere. He'll be gone soon...
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Rinty
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I thhougt it was a comedy turn performed to demonstrate "irony".
Brown expects to get a slap on the back for reducing his arsenal to 160 warheads and three subs. Shouldnt Iran see this as the level of acceptability? If having that sort of asenal gets you plaudits as a man of peace, Iran have a long way to go before the can be seen as warmongers.
Of course, Browns hypcrisy was outdone by Israel who called Irans behaviour 'unaccepetable'.
Israel have an estimated 80 warheads. It is an estimate as Israel do not conform to any international agreements and refuse to cooperate with the IAEA or UN, banning inspectors from their sites.
Iran, on the other hand, DO conform with the IAEA. They just refuse to comply with the extra add-on conditions that apply only to Iran, imposed by the UN security council, i.e. that big 5 nuclear powers.
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Stevie
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What the heck is a dinky little island doing holding 160 nuclear warheads?
As an aside, how many warheads would it take to cause a nuclear winter?
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Alasdair
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It all sounds a bit like the build up to Iraq to me.
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Shagpile
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| Bravehand wrote: | | As an aside, how many warheads would it take to cause a nuclear winter? |
42. Regardless of yield, 42 is the number....... I have consulted the book of Holy Armaments, and just under the heading 'Holy Hand Grenade' (as an addendum) it says "don't even bother counting with this wholy device". It is also cross (no, not that "Cross") referenced to some guy called "Ford Prefect", so it must be true.
Hope that is of some help.
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Stevie
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Of great help and entirely depressing that the nukes on Brit subs alone have the capacity to destroy life on Earth 4 times over.
Ah well, gotta laugh.
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Shagpile
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| Bravehand wrote: | Of great help and entirely depressing that the nukes on Brit subs alone have the capacity to destroy life on Earth 4 times over.
Ah well, gotta laugh. |
Authority to push That independent button lies in the Whitehouse though.
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Holebender
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I'm not sure if that's strictly true. What is true, however, is that the missiles cannot be targeted without information from US satellites and so they are unusable without permission from the US.
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Stevie
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I've often pondered why there is so little of us in the US.
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jamesieboy
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Iran is one of the most vile regimes in the world.
It is run by a bunch of clericalist nutters who have a dreadful
human rights record.
It is one of the worst places in the world to be a woman or a gay.
Israel, in comparison, is a much more pluralist country where
women and men can mix and have a beer on the beach, where
homosexuals can live without fear and where there is free speech.
The government has done nasty things of course (on occasion) but
few in that region have clean hands.
Anyway, if you want a better picture of what goes on in the region
look up Amnesty International's view of the individual players.
Try Syria. Their record (when was the last time they had an election?)
on human rights is pretty grim, and they've done some nasty things in Lebanon.
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landg
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racisits and bigots run iran, they are not to be trusted.
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Red Justice
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I would rather countries only used nuclear technology for peaceful means. But what gives the US and UK the right to decide who is responsible to have nuclear weapons?
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Stevie
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Nobody gives them the right but if the Iranians have nukes they'll use them.
And then we'll say we should have stopped them.
When I say Iranians (not the citizens but their loony government).
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Shagpile
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| jamesieboy wrote: | Iran is one of the most vile regimes in the world.
It is run by a bunch of clericalist nutters who have a dreadful
human rights record.
It is one of the worst places in the world to be a woman or a gay.
Israel, in comparison, is a much more pluralist country where
women and men can mix and have a beer on the beach, where
homosexuals can live without fear and where there is free speech.
The government has done nasty things of course (on occasion) but
few in that region have clean hands.
Anyway, if you want a better picture of what goes on in the region
look up Amnesty International's view of the individual players.
Try Syria. Their record (when was the last time they had an election?)
on human rights is pretty grim, and they've done some nasty things in Lebanon. |
Amnesty International has a few things to say about the UK too.
Other than that, your post could be regarded by some as incitement to racial hatred......
Jamsie, have I misunderstood you? Are You on some rebound of the Holocaust or something?
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jamesieboy
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What I'm saying is that the Arab regimes (Iran is Persian with an Arab minority in the south) are given an almost free reign in this country by the liberal media.
Most Arab/Muslim regimes (very few of them are democratically-elected governments) have committed horrendous human rights abuses but you hardly ever hear about them.
Syria's meddling in Lebanon is hardly ever mentioned even though it has lead frequently to death and destruction and they have widely believed to have been behind a number of assassinations of democratically-elected Lebanese politicians.
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landg
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| jamesieboy wrote: | What I'm saying is that the Arab regimes (Iran is Persian with an Arab minority in the south) are given an almost free reign in this country by the liberal media.
Most Arab/Muslim regimes (very few of them are democratically-elected governments) have committed horrendous human rights abuses but you hardly ever hear about them.
Syria's meddling in Lebanon is hardly ever mentioned even though it has lead frequently to death and destruction and they have widely believed to have been behind a number of assassinations of democratically-elected Lebanese politicians. |
people worry they will be labelled racist if they say bad yet truthful things about arabs and muslims. this why a previous post deflected the point back ontoo the uk.
muslim dictators and torture - shooosh.
uk - bad.
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Shagpile
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| jamesieboy wrote: | What I'm saying is that the Arab regimes (Iran is Persian with an Arab minority in the south) are given an almost free reign in this country by the liberal media.
Most Arab/Muslim regimes (very few of them are democratically-elected governments) have committed horrendous human rights abuses but you hardly ever hear about them.
Syria's meddling in Lebanon is hardly ever mentioned even though it has lead frequently to death and destruction and they have widely believed to have been behind a number of assassinations of democratically-elected Lebanese politicians. |
Israel is hardly whiter than white. The UK is hardly whiter than white. Your point of democray in the region is also a red hering. Who is it exactly that sells arms to the dictatorship called Saudi Arabia? What of human rights abuses there?
Democracy or lack of it is not a problem for Dollar$. If you care about democracy actually counting for something....... count the postal votes in our up-and-coming election.
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Dave Coull
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Most of a lifetime ago, I was in Arab countries for two years, as a member of the British forces. I spent a year of that in Bahrein, a country ruled by a monarchy from the Sunni minority, but with a Shia majority. Most of the year we were allowed into the capital city, Manama, when off duty, but when it came to the Shia commemoration of the martyrdom of their founder we were confined to barracks. Devout Shias would go through the streets whipping themselves with chains until they bled, and the military top brass were concerned that if passions ran high they might start whipping us instead. It was when I was in Bahrein I first started learning about Iran. Because of its location, and also because of its majority Shia religion, Bahrein has ties with Iran, as well as with its fellow Arab countries.
| jamesieboy wrote: | | the Arab regimes (Iran is Persian with an Arab minority in the south) |
This topic was supposed to be about Iran. It is ridiculously inaccurate to list Iran as an "Arab" country. It is also inaccurate to say it "has an Arab minority in the south". The small Arabic speaking minority is only in the south east. There is a completely different minority in the south west, near the border with Pakistan. And there is a Kurdish population in Iran near the border with Iraqi Kurdistan.You also have Pashtuns, Uzbeks, Tadjiks, and Turkmen, near the borders with Afghanistan and Turkmenistan. All of these minorities (and probably a few more I've missed out) add up to millions of citizens, but the really big non-Persian grouping are the Azeris, in the north west of the country, towards Azerbaijan. Some estimates put the number of Azeris at more than live in Azerbaijan itself, and a large slice of the population of Iran as a whole. The one thing we can safely say about all of these groups, as well as about the Persian majority, is that they definitely aren't Arabs. | landg wrote: | | people worry they will be labelled racist if they say bad yet truthful things about arabs and muslims |
It is both ignorant and racist to lump all arabs together, and it is both ignorant and bigoted to lump all muslims together. It makes about as much sense as saying "Christians are......." and basing what you've got to say about Christians on what you once saw at an Old Firm match.
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landg
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| Dave Coull wrote: | Most of a lifetime ago, I was in Arab countries for two years, as a member of the British forces. I spent a year of that in Bahrein, a country ruled by a monarchy from the Sunni minority, but with a Shia majority. Most of the year we were allowed into the capital city, Manama, when off duty, but when it came to the Shia commemoration of the martyrdom of their founder we were confined to barracks. Devout Shias would go through the streets whipping themselves with chains until they bled, and the military top brass were concerned that if passions ran high they might start whipping us instead. It was when I was in Bahrein I first started learning about Iran. Because of its location, and also because of its majority Shia religion, Bahrein has ties with Iran, as well as with its fellow Arab countries.
| jamesieboy wrote: | | the Arab regimes (Iran is Persian with an Arab minority in the south) |
This topic was supposed to be about Iran. It is ridiculously inaccurate to list Iran as an "Arab" country. It is also inaccurate to say it "has an Arab minority in the south". The small Arabic speaking minority is only in the south east. There is a completely different minority in the south west, near the border with Pakistan. And there is a Kurdish population in Iran near the border with Iraqi Kurdistan.You also have Pashtuns, Uzbeks, Tadjiks, and Turkmen, near the borders with Afghanistan and Turkmenistan. All of these minorities (and probably a few more I've missed out) add up to millions of citizens, but the really big non-Persian grouping are the Azeris, in the north west of the country, towards Azerbaijan. Some estimates put the number of Azeris at more than live in Azerbaijan itself, and a large slice of the population of Iran as a whole. The one thing we can safely say about all of these groups, as well as about the Persian majority, is that they definitely aren't Arabs. | landg wrote: | | people worry they will be labelled racist if they say bad yet truthful things about arabs and muslims |
It is both ignorant and racist to lump all arabs together, and it is both ignorant and bigoted to lump all muslims together. It makes about as much sense as saying "Christians are......." and basing what you've got to say about Christians on what you once saw at an Old Firm match. |
i take it thats directed at holebender as he just jumped the wholeof the uk together. which, as you pointed out is wrong.
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Holebender
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Idiot. That's directed at landg, as he seems to have difficulty figuring out who is being addressed by which remarks.
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landg
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davey neees to more specific, he just spoke about the ignorance and bigotry of lumping a whole group of people togther. as wholebender did with the uk.
waas it about lumping the uk or arabs/muslims together dvd?
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Dave Coull
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"landg" wrote, about something I had written | Quote: | | i take it thats directed at holebender |
No, it wasn't. | landg wrote: | | he just jumped the wholeof the uk together |
Really? You surprise me. Holebender never struck me as a Unionist. But if Holebender did in fact make some such comment, I never noticed it, and I wasn't referring to anything he had said. | jamesieboy wrote: | | the Arab regimes (Iran is Persian with an Arab minority in the south) |
a comment which I considered potentially misleading, and I explained why I considered it potentially misleading. | landg wrote: | | davey neees to more specific, he just spoke about the ignorance and bigotry of lumping a whole group of people togther |
No, I didn't just speak "about the ignorance and bigotry of lumping a whole group of people togther". I gave specific examples. I wrote | Quote: | | it is both ignorant and racist to lump all arabs together, and it is both ignorant and bigoted to lump all muslims together. |
But, although, on this particular occasion, I was being specific, it's true that, as a general principle, I think it's a mistake to lump together people who may in fact be very different, and who may have very different views. For example, it's a mistake to make sweeping general statements about "protesteers".
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landg
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| Dave Coull wrote: | "landg" wrote, about something I had written | Quote: | | i take it thats directed at holebender |
No, it wasn't. | landg wrote: | | he just jumped the wholeof the uk together |
Really? You surprise me. Holebender never struck me as a Unionist. But if Holebender did in fact make some such comment, I never noticed it, and I wasn't referring to anything he had said. | jamesieboy wrote: | | the Arab regimes (Iran is Persian with an Arab minority in the south) |
a comment which I considered potentially misleading, and I explained why I considered it potentially misleading. | landg wrote: | | davey neees to more specific, he just spoke about the ignorance and bigotry of lumping a whole group of people togther |
No, I didn't just speak "about the ignorance and bigotry of lumping a whole group of people togther". I gave specific examples. I wrote | Quote: | | it is both ignorant and racist to lump all arabs together, and it is both ignorant and bigoted to lump all muslims together. |
But, although, on this particular occasion, I was being specific, it's true that, as a general principle, I think it's a mistake to lump together people who may in fact be very different, and who may have very different views. For example, it's a mistake to make sweeping general statements about "protesteers". |
or the UK?.................
specififcs daved, specifics and it gives an excuse to make your posts even more exhausting. i'll probably regret saying that nwo.
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Dave Coull
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| landg wrote: | | or the UK?.................specififcs daved |
I realise expressing yourself in English is difficult, with Gibberish being your first language, but, if you would care to re-phrase that as a question which makes some sense, I will try to answer.
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landg
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| Dave Coull wrote: | | landg wrote: | | or the UK?.................specififcs daved |
I realise expressing yourself in English is difficult, with Gibberish being your first language, but, if you would care to re-phrase that as a question which makes some sense, I will try to answer. |
you, the man who was happy to be interviewd by the NOTW, is getting all pompous and grammar and spelling.
daved, your irnoy and waffle know's no bounds.
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Stevie
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| landg wrote: | happy to be interviewd by the NOTW, is getting all pompous and grammar and spelling.
daved, your irnoy and waffle know's no bounds. |
It would be amusing if it weren't for the fact that, based on previous posts, this could well be a normal landg sentence.
Of course, certain substances could lie at the heart of this innovative spelling/grammatical form landg is developing.
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Fidget
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| Stevie wrote: |
It would be amusing if it weren't for the fact that... |
"wasn't". 
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Dave Coull
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| landg wrote: | | or the UK?.................specififcs daved |
and since, despite using a question mark, "landg" had forgotten to actually ask a question, I wrote | Quote: | | if you would care to re-phrase that as a question which makes some sense, I will try to answer. |
It turns out "landg" didn't really have a question about the subject of this thread, nor about any related topic, he just wanted to have a "go" at me personally | landg wrote: | | happy to be interviewd by the NOTW |
Even the NOTW said I wasn't happy about talking to them, that was about the only thing they got right. Not one single thing they "quoted" was something I actually said, they just made it up. However, lifting ourselves back up out of the gutter, it is ridiculously inaccurate to count Iran as an "Arab" country; it is both ignorant and racist to lump all Arabs together; and it is both ignorant and bigoted to lump all muslims together. That makes about as much sense as saying "Christians are......." and basing what you've got to say about Christians on what you once saw at an Old Firm match. As a general principle, I think it's a mistake to lump together people who may in fact be very different, and who may have very different views.
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Dave Coull
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| Stevie wrote: | | It would be amusing if it weren't for the fact that... |
There's no need to correct Stevie, Fidget, he was using inversion of a conditional tense of the verb "to be" in a conditional sentence. The BBC "Learning English" programme gives, as an example of correct usage, "Were it not for your kindness, I'd still be living in that tiny bed-sit in the town centre".
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Fidget
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"Weren't" was wrong.
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Dave Coull
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| Fidget wrote: | | "Weren't" was wrong. |
Okay maybe it was. I don't think it's worth arguing over. Regardless of whether what Stevie said was grammatically correct or not, at least it was coherent. There are some advantages to staying off the drugs.
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Stevie
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Fidget, 'wasn't' is typical spoken English, not correct English in the written language (or spoken either for that matter). It's correct to use the preterit modal form of the verb when employed in a conditional sentence expressing a possibility or a desire (etc...).
e.g. If I were you, I'd read again Dave's explanation of the conditional mode in English grammar.
It's probably best not to try and correct an English teacher's grammar if you're a tad unsure yourself.
However, there is hope. I can recommend books to get you started, 'The Very Hungry Caterpillar' and since it's Halloween, 'Meg and Mog'.
Actually, one doesn't usually comment on silly typos and this and that spelling error but as I said landg has a history of impenetrable posts that he swears gives him 'power'.
How 'power' can be equated with entirely incoherent sentences remains to be seen.
He fidgetith here, he fidgetith there, he fidgetith almost everywhere.
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Holebender
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| landg wrote: | davey neees to more specific, he just spoke about the ignorance and bigotry of lumping a whole group of people togther. as wholebender did with the uk.
waas it about lumping the uk or arabs/muslims together dvd? |
Alright, I've let this go on long enough; tell us where I am alleged to have committed this heinous crime. Let's see a quote, tell us the thread, chapter and verse.
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Stevie
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Careful now, you might not understand his answer.
He's got the power.
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Holebender
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I don't understand the allegation, so it'll be no great loss if I don't understand the response. An answer is probably too much to hope for.
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Stevie
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I believe a supercomputer is busy designing another supercomputer to one day translate the mysticism that is landg's powerful answers into a form that lesser mortals can perhaps comprehend... but it's by no means certain that such an undertaking is possible.
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Dave Coull
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What was the question again?
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magister ludi
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| Stevie wrote: |
However, there is hope. I can recommend books to get you started, 'The Very Hungry Caterpillar' and since it's Halloween, 'Meg and Mog'. |
All of which reminds me of something Winnie the Pooh said:
“My spelling is wobbly. It is good spelling but it wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places.”
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Stevie
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| Dave Coull wrote: | | What was the question again? |
I'm afraid in order to understand the question we'll have to get the 2nd generation computer to design a 3rd and possibly even a 4th generation computer.
I suspect Winnie may have better written expression skills than landg or the grammatically challenged Fidget.
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landg
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it's racist and bigotted to lump a whole group of people together.
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Stevie
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I don't think lumping you and Fidget together qualifies as being big enough to form a 'group'.
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landg
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lumping large groups of people together is racist and bigotted. dave told us that.lets leave it just now. i'll keep that in my back pocket.it'll come in handy.
it has already but dave in his tabloid fashion chooses to ignore it.
i wonder if he took tips on the notw reporter in writing when he whored himself to them.
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Holebender
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| Holebender wrote: | | landg wrote: | davey neees to more specific, he just spoke about the ignorance and bigotry of lumping a whole group of people togther. as wholebender did with the uk.
waas it about lumping the uk or arabs/muslims together dvd? |
Alright, I've let this go on long enough; tell us where I am alleged to have committed this heinous crime. Let's see a quote, tell us the thread, chapter and verse. |
Still waiting.
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Fidget
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| Stevie wrote: |
It's probably best not to try and correct an English teacher's grammar if you're a tad unsure yourself.
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Given the dramatically declining standards of literacy across the land, I don't think English teachers are in any position to be blowing any trumpet of "we're right cause we're English teachers".
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Dave Coull
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This title of this thread is "Iran". Considering there is widespread confusion about Iran and other neighbouring countries, it was reasonable to point out that Iran is not an Arab country, and it was also reasonable to point out that it is wrong to lump all Arabs, or all Muslims, together, when there are in fact so many differences between them. But "landg" decided to make it personal | landg wrote: | | the ignorance and bigotry of lumping a whole group of people togther. as wholebender did |
| Holebender wrote: | | Alright, I've let this go on long enough; tell us where I am alleged to have committed this heinous crime. Let's see a quote |
| landg wrote: | | leave it just now |
So, first of all "landg" accuses Holebender of "ignorance" and "bigotry"; then, when Holebender challenges him, he says "leave it just now" - but without withdrawing the accusation. Either provide a quote to prove the accusation made against Holebender, or withdraw the accusation.
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Stevie
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| Fidget wrote: | | Stevie wrote: |
It's probably best not to try and correct an English teacher's grammar if you're a tad unsure yourself.
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Given the dramatically declining standards of literacy across the land, I don't think English teachers are in any position to be blowing any trumpet of "we're right cause we're English teachers". |
Spoken like a man of the people without an education.
Gotta be proud.
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landg
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| Dave Coull wrote: | This title of this thread is "Iran". Considering there is widespread confusion about Iran and other neighbouring countries, it was reasonable to point out that Iran is not an Arab country, and it was also reasonable to point out that it is wrong to lump all Arabs, or all Muslims, together, when there are in fact so many differences between them. But "landg" decided to make it personal | landg wrote: | | the ignorance and bigotry of lumping a whole group of people togther. as wholebender did |
| Holebender wrote: | | Alright, I've let this go on long enough; tell us where I am alleged to have committed this heinous crime. Let's see a quote |
| landg wrote: | | leave it just now |
So, first of all "landg" accuses Holebender of "ignorance" and "bigotry"; then, when Holebender challenges him, he says "leave it just now" - but without withdrawing the accusation. Either provide a quote to prove the accusation made against Holebender, or withdraw the accusation. |
davey, honestly. gonnae just shut.up. your dull. you make no sense.
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Holebender
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| Holebender wrote: | | Holebender wrote: | | landg wrote: | davey neees to more specific, he just spoke about the ignorance and bigotry of lumping a whole group of people togther. as wholebender did with the uk.
waas it about lumping the uk or arabs/muslims together dvd? |
Alright, I've let this go on long enough; tell us where I am alleged to have committed this heinous crime. Let's see a quote, tell us the thread, chapter and verse. |
Still waiting. |
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Holebender
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| Holebender wrote: | | Holebender wrote: | | landg wrote: | davey neees to more specific, he just spoke about the ignorance and bigotry of lumping a whole group of people togther. as wholebender did with the uk.
waas it about lumping the uk or arabs/muslims together dvd? |
Alright, I've let this go on long enough; tell us where I am alleged to have committed this heinous crime. Let's see a quote, tell us the thread, chapter and verse. |
Still waiting. |
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Fidget
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| Stevie wrote: | | Fidget wrote: | | Stevie wrote: |
It's probably best not to try and correct an English teacher's grammar if you're a tad unsure yourself.
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Given the dramatically declining standards of literacy across the land, I don't think English teachers are in any position to be blowing any trumpet of "we're right cause we're English teachers". |
Spoken like a man of the people without an education.
Gotta be proud. |
Well, there we have you exposing yourself for what you really represent.
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Shagpile
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| Fidget wrote: | | Well, there we have you exposing yourself for what you really represent. |
Sorry..... missed something there.
What does he represent?
Falling standards in education in Scotland, France or both?
Or is he merely a commentary of what he sees as failed individuals?
Seriously I can't comprehend what you refer to.
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Fidget
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| Shagpile wrote: |
Seriously I can't comprehend what you refer to. |
it wasn't you I was talking to so it doesn't really matter what I was referring to as far as you should be concerned.
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Alasdair
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| Fidget wrote: | | Shagpile wrote: |
Seriously I can't comprehend what you refer to. |
it wasn't you I was talking to so it doesn't really matter what I was referring to as far as you should be concerned. |
No no, I think we'd all like to know. You make a statement on a public forum, then you should be able to explain it.
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Fidget
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Welll this..
| Stevie wrote: | | Spoken like a man of the people without an education |
.. says quite a lot about where he thinks he is.
And..
| Stevie wrote: | It's probably best not to try and correct an English teacher's grammar if you're a tad unsure yourself.
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..just underlines it, so to speak.
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landg
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| Holebender wrote: | | Holebender wrote: | | Holebender wrote: | | landg wrote: | davey neees to more specific, he just spoke about the ignorance and bigotry of lumping a whole group of people togther. as wholebender did with the uk.
waas it about lumping the uk or arabs/muslims together dvd? |
Alright, I've let this go on long enough; tell us where I am alleged to have committed this heinous crime. Let's see a quote, tell us the thread, chapter and verse. |
Still waiting. |
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scarily you don't even know or recognise it.
i'll let you wallow in your ignorance.
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Stevie
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Ah, the Fidget and landg show is in town.
Thrilling stuff.
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Holebender
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| landg wrote: | | Holebender wrote: | | Holebender wrote: | | Holebender wrote: | | landg wrote: | davey neees to more specific, he just spoke about the ignorance and bigotry of lumping a whole group of people togther. as wholebender did with the uk.
waas it about lumping the uk or arabs/muslims together dvd? |
Alright, I've let this go on long enough; tell us where I am alleged to have committed this heinous crime. Let's see a quote, tell us the thread, chapter and verse. |
Still waiting. |
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scarily you don't even know or recognise it.
i'll let you wallow in your ignorance. |
In other words you made it up. Quote me or admit your lie.
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Stevie
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As Shagpile commented 'failed individuals' whose current goal is to disrupt debate and win posting one-upmanship points.
Thrilling stuff.
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Shagpile
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| Stevie wrote: | | As Shagpile commented 'failed individuals' whose current goal is to disrupt debate and win posting one-upmanship points. |
It happened in my school days (skooldaze), to my shame I was part of it......
I'm better now, learned a bit of French, German (I also understand Dutch/Flemish) and I also know much more than those who don't..... go figure!
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