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SLG

Latest independence poll

40% in favour, 44% against

According to the Sunday Herald, this compares with 35% for and 50% against in a similar poll three months earlier.  The question is based on the SNP's prefered question outlined in their white paper.

The breakdowns seem to show the familiar pattern...
Quote:
Men, by 47% to 43%, were shown to favour independence, as did young people. Within the 18-24 age bracket, 47% back separation, as opposed to 32% who do not. Of those in the 25-34 demographic, 53% support the break-up of the UK.

However, opposition to independence is still strong among women, as 44% of female respondents declined to support the SNP independence question, compared with 34% who were in favour.

Pensioners, too, remain sceptical. In the 65+ bracket, only 30% agreed with the SNP proposition, while 57% expressed opposition.

http://www.sundayherald.com/news/...dnews/display.var.1907907.0.0.php
Maol.Chaluim

The headline reads "40% of Scots now support independence".  It's actually 48% if you consider those who expressed an opinion, as would be the case in a referendum.

Good news, anyway.
SLG

Aye, a lot of folk just reading the headline will make the assumption that if only 40% support independence, then 60% are against.  I'm pleasantly surprised at the actual article though, Paul Hutcheon is pretty clear in stating the strength of support for independence that this poll indicates.
Economist

Well, there's polls and polls and some more polls, but this one seems to be aligned more with the long term trend in support for independence compared to the union.

The breakdown is extremely interesting. I'm extremely glad to see very high support for independence in my own age group (18-24) and the majority support in the 25-34 age group. Clearly the union means much less to younger people compared to older people - and there are good reasons for that I suppose.

What is it with women though - who seem to be the major sticking point? It is a similar point for the SNP - I seem to remember polls suggesting a higher proportion of women supporting Labour at the election, compared to the SNP.
Maol.Chaluim

SLG wrote:
Aye, a lot of folk just reading the headline will make the assumption that if only 40% support independence, then 60% are against.


I'm sure that's the idea.
kevin04

Nice reading that is, slow and steady wins the race! we are getting there  Cool
mairead

Yes Kevin, I agree. The story of the hare and the tortoise springs to mind here
kingkev

This is very encouraging news just hope this trend keeps goin in that direction. Very Happy
George

One thing that immediately struck me was the strong support amongst the young for independence.

Now, in years gone by this may well have eroded as they grew older and were affected by the political headlines that emanated from the Scottish and U.K. media.

However, this next generation will be used to accessing their news from the web.  Articles, studies and comments questioning the Unionist viewpoint are increasingly accessible because of the internet.  This, coupled with the demise of the 'war' generation will almost certainly result in a far wider support for independence than any previous genarations.

One note of caution though.  The Unionist establishment almost certainly know this and that is why we must be on our guard to ensure they do not try to control this medium by stealth.  All it requires is for a few rogue posters to post 'inflamatory' or 'subversive comments' and before you know it a site is closed.
SLG

George wrote:
However, this next generation will be used to accessing their news from the web.  Articles, studies and comments questioning the Unionist viewpoint are increasingly accessible because of the internet.

Good point George.  I think the net will (and does) balance things up greatly.  At the moment, I think there is still a massive dominance by a small number of sources for original news articles (especially the BBC).
Lothian Sky

This is good news, but I never beleived support for independence was plummetting, as the unionists were so keep to make out. I'm 36 years old, and I've been an SNP supporter since the age of 15, something which always infuriated my pro-Labour family.

Now they vote SNP too. I doubt very much if my kids will cling to the union in the way my parents or grandparents did.

If they do, I can always put them up for adoption!  Razz
Avatar

Well it appears 59% of Daily express readers support independence
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/28788/Express-readers-say-YES
October1974

the Express poll is a phone poll so I would not take that too seriously. That newspaper for a little while seems to give the SNP a bit more positive coverage compared to the Scotsman.
Aventinian

Avatar wrote:
Well it appears 59% of Daily express readers support independence
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/28788/Express-readers-say-YES


Along with the other perfectly moderate findings?  Very Happy

All courtesy of the 'World's Greatest Newspaper' (which, oddly enough, seems to be identical coverage of the McCann family and Princess Diana every single day)
Maol.Chaluim

The independence question appears to be unusually balanced compared to the others...

Anyway, back to the matter in hand - good result, eh Av? Very Happy
kevin04

I'm recently turned 25 and have always voted SNP, my family is not so interested in politics but at this election in May both parents voted SNP (Dad hadn't voted in 15years or so I don't think) Brother is all for Independence but isn't a fan of Salmond or the Monarchy so he refuses to vote SNP which is a shame but I almost got him to vote SNP last time in May just he had started his own business and was working late getting his schedule up to date that night.

The biggest turn around personally for me is a friend who comes from a strong Labour family, his parents, grandparents and uncles all labour a few even labour party members has now to decided to support Independence and intends on voting for the SNP.

I'm originally from Carnoustie and alot of my family and friends are from Angus & Perthshire which has been SNP areas for a longish time now - out of my 10 close friends, 7 of us all vote SNP and 1 voted Lib Dem (because he liked Charlie Kennedy he said) and the other 2 have no interest in politics but would vote yes on a referendum.

The key in my opinion for the SNP to do is - to keep doing a pretty reasonably good job at running Scotland, of course they are going to get pelters from the political minded on here and in the press but the majority of the public think they are doing a good job, they've been brilliant as well - not mentioning Independence at all and getting on with running Scotland.

Labour are in a bad way, they are not trusted and with the latest opinion poll in Scotland showing the SNP at 1% in the Westminister Poll as well is even better reading for the SNP, Imagine 30 odd SNP MPs at Westminister?

Christmas is coming, SNP is government, 2 positive opinion polls released and the SNP being quite popular.  2007 looks like a good year to be a Scots Nationalist.  Very Happy
SLG

October1974

it appears that the Express papers may be changing political allegiances soon.

http://tinyurl.com/2xsexy
kevin04

Would be a very bold step by the Express, I don't know the In's and Out's of the newspaper but surely they'll be funded by their big brother in England which will probably cause friction if they are Pro-SNP and the bosses down south are Tory.
Maol.Chaluim

English Tories who are no doubt considering the possibility of a guarnteed Tory majority at Westminster once Labour's Scottish MPs are out of the picture, perhaps?
macnumpty

kevin04 wrote:
Would be a very bold step by the Express, I don't know the In's and Out's of the newspaper but surely they'll be funded by their big brother in England which will probably cause friction if they are Pro-SNP and the bosses down south are Tory.


Don't be so sure... the Scottish Sun backed the SNP in '92, when the London edition was firmly behind the Tories.

Frankly, as in the Sun's case, I suspect this is more the paper siding against Labour rather than with the SNP, and the owners have judged that the SNP are in the best position to damage Labour in an election.

Besides, we all know that whatever they decide, the front page will still be 'DIANA: WHY CAN'T WE SHUT UP ABOUT HER?' Laughing
Reluctant Hero

There is currently a poll on the Sunday Herald website asking should Scotland be independent.

It is currently standing at 80% for 20% against.
kevin04

back for christmas in bonnie carnoustie,

we had a wee mock poll tonight out of 10 of us

1 abstained
2 voted no
voted YES to an Independent Scotland

We'll get there!

like the herald, carnoustie drunken friends born in 1982 said yes...

x x

merry xmas ourscotland folks

love you all

even the union lover avent  Very Happy

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