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Libertarian Socialism (Referendum bams- keep out!)Gus & I were saying elsewhere before we were rudely interrupted
| Quote: | | the idea is that 'property is theft' from Proudhon (not Marx). Property can be shared as appropriate. The ideas of mutuality, collective ownership thorugh community, workplace or neighburhoods is adopted under libertarian communism or socialism. |
The description of what it libertarian socialism would look like in the end is clear enough. But, leaving aside the question of whether it is feasible or desirable to live in such a society, how do we actually get there?
| Quote: | So how does someone else's lack or possession of freedom affect my lack or possession of freedom in any material way?"
The best way to illustrate this is the famous Martin Niemoller poem: |
Pastor Niemoller makes a case for political plurality and tolerance, of which I am all in favour. Implicitly, he suggests that we owe a communal duty of care to each other. Again, I agree. But with all respect, he sheds no light whatsoever on the claim that my freedom is in any meaningful sense dependent on someone else's.
When discussing freedom we need clear, practical rules, applicable rules. Sentimentality won't do.
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