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Lord F*** em CoeAccording to a thread on the TAMB it would appear that Lord Coe has been rather disparaging regarding his Celtic cousins attitudes to his TeamGB Fitba team plan.
THELONDONPAPER has him quoted as saying f***em when asked about Scotland and Wales opposition to his plans,also saying that Alex Ferguson has agreed to be the manager.
The piece has been already pulled from the Metro website.
Wonder why? 
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Would AF really consider being manager of a GB team?
In comparative terms, the Olympics is a bit of a Mickey Mouse competition for football. Can't see Ferguson wasting his time with it.
Can a GB team be fielded without the co-operation of all the home FA's?
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The BOA seem to be of the opinion that it`s up to them.
There is a No team gb campaign up and running to try and persuade people that nothing is to be gained, in risking the 4 Nations independence within FIFA, for the sake of a few bums on seats in a micky mouse tourney in 4 years time.
Coe has provided a nice sound bite to show how the situation is viewed by the establishment.
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Re: Lord F*** em Coe | mal wrote: | According to a thread on the TAMB it would appear that Lord Coe has been rather disparaging regarding his Celtic cousins attitudes to his TeamGB Fitba team plan.
THELONDONPAPER has him quoted as saying f***em when asked about Scotland and Wales opposition to his plans,also saying that Alex Ferguson has agreed to be the manager.
The piece has been already pulled from the Metro website.
Wonder why? |
Can you blame him for being like that when Scotland and Wales are being so awkward?
There is really no reason for the Scots and Welsh to not support a GB football team. The Scottish and Welsh FAs keep banging on about how a Great Britain football team may cause them to lose their independence as footballing nations, even though the President of FIFA, Sepp Blatter (who is in favour of a Great Britain Olympics team) said that there is no way Scotland and Wales will ever lose their status as independence footballing nations.
Having a GB football team at the 1948 London Olympics never affected the Welsh and Scottish FAs, so why would 2012 be different?
So you can't use this as an excuse anymore. Many other sports are represented by Great Britain at the Olympics so I don't see why football should be any different.
So Seb Coe has the right to be at but miffed at the Celts. I'm afraid the Scots and Welshare in the wrong in this argument.
So stop going about "losing your independence within FIFA". It never happened in 1948 and FIFA has said several times that it won't happen in 2012..
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| Reluctant Hero wrote: |
Can a GB team be fielded without the co-operation of all the home FA's? |
Of course it can. And it probably WILL be fielded in 2012, albeit with all the players being English (or Northern Irish, too, if they are in favour).
| Quote: | The Fifa president, Sepp Blatter, has confirmed that a Great Britain football team WILL compete in the 2012 Olympics and their participation will NOT affect the home nations' separate representation on the game's world governing body.
Blatter said that Fifa had given written guarantees that fielding a host British team will not interfere with England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland maintaining their separate identities. He said: "We have confirmed in writing that they have to provide a Great Britain team for the 2012 Olympics, but the four British associations will not lose the rights and privileges acquired back in 1947.
"They will play with one team but it is up to them how they do it. It can be a mixed team, it can be from just one of the home nations, whatever they want to do."
Britain qualify automatically as Olympic hosts, but it is unlikely there will be a British Olympic football team after 2012 because no united British team plays in the European Under-21 Championship, which acts as the qualifiers.
independent.co.uk
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"If you start to put together a combined team for the Olympics,the question will automatically come up that there are four associations so how can they play in one team,if this is the case then why the hell do they have four associations and four votes and their own vice-presidency?"
"This will put into question all the priviledges that the British associations have been given by the congress in 1946"
Sebb Blatter
March 2008
There you go,safe as a Bank deposit 
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I've already quoted Blatter that he said that the four British FAs will keep their independence. So don't try and find other quotes where he appears to deny it.
Why's it only ther Welsh and Scots, and maybe the Northern Irish complaining aout this, but not the English? Are the "Celts" somehow more paranoid?
It's time for the Scots and Welsh to stop their silly posturing....
| Quote: | Stop posturing and make Team GB great
30th August 2008
Daily Mail
It was shortly after London had been awarded the 2012 Olympic Games, back in the summer of 2005, that the FIFA president Sepp Blatter was asked about the thorny issue of a Great Britain football team.
Would it compromise the status of the four home nations when it came to the World Cup?
Would England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland lose their individuality and be forced to compete together all the time? Blatter's answer was to the point. 'We have confirmed in writing that they have to provide a Great Britain team for the 2012 Olympics,' he said.
'But the four British associations will not lose their rights and privileges they acquired in 1947.'
Herr Blatter has made his position clear, so why can't the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish just trust him?
Given such a documented statement, one which FIFA surely could not retract after 2012, what is the problem for the home governing bodies, other than the Football Association, who are a lone voice in favour of a GB team? Surely the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish who oppose a combined team are not saying that they do not believe or trust Herr Blatter?
Great Britain entered a team at the 1948 London Games, having been reassured the previous year, as Blatter indicated, that they could remain four separate nations for all other competitions.
Thereafter, the British team comprised amateur players, until all football in England was declared professional after 1972, Britain's last Olympic appearance.
Since 1947, never have the home nations' individual positions come under threat.
Indeed, over the past 20 years or so, with the political changes in the Soviet Union and the Balkans, the move has been for expansion rather than amalgamation, with more nations than ever before taking part in qualifying for the World Cup and European Championship.
Now, Blatter has said and done some bizarre things during his ever-extending presidency.
Under him, FIFA have grown rich and powerful and been involved in some dubious commercial dealings to which blind eyes have been turned. Here, we are also growing weary of waiting for the 1966 World Cup shadow squad to receive the medals he promised them eight months ago.
Blatter has also been seen as anti-British with some of his pot-and-kettle statements about the bloated financial state of the English clubs and the need to force them to field more homegrown players, while similar suspicion surrounds Michel Platini, the UEFA president, who is unhappy about the level of debt being incurred by Premier League clubs in their hedonistic pursuit of world domination.
Both men, though, actually love the English game and its players. I recall sitting in Platini's company as, for example, he waxed lyrical about the young Wayne Rooney. Blatter openly admires the comparative sportsmanship in Britain. Their criticism and concern is that of a good friend who wants the best for them.
It is understandable that the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish should protect their interests, but they need to look at the wider picture. Hard of heart are those who have not been touched by the stirring deeds of Britain's sportsmen and women in Beijing these past few weeks.
Posturing from domestic associations threatens to deny that chance to share in the scenes and the success to outstanding young footballers from outside England, which will provide a team should the others continue their stance. Sir Alex Ferguson, as a lily-gilding finale to his career, is unlikely to want to manage such a team, sadly.
It should be simple enough. Lord Coe and Richard Caborn, Gordon Brown's World Cup 2018 bid ambassador, have the ear of Blatter. They should be able to prevail on him to write a letter on FIFA notepaper guaranteeing continued autonomy to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Then they would surely have no reason to deny further a fully representative Great Britain team for London in 2012.
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[quote="Blackleaf"]I've already quoted Blatter that he said that the four British FAs will keep their independence. So don't try and find other quotes where he appears to deny it.
Oh! ok then,Sorry 
Herr Blatter has made his position clear, so why can't the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish just trust him?
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It is understandable that the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish should protect their interests,
Correct,just as the British are promoting theirs.
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