Reluctant Hero
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McCann's - Guilty or No GuiltyWhat do you think? I think it is absolutely ludicrous to suggest that they were somehow responsible for Madeleine's disappearance.
There is no way they could have kept up that pretence if they were guilty.
Hope she is returned safe and well, but the more time goes on, the more unlikely that becomes.
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William_Cleland
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Something always struck me as a bit odd about what was going on with that. The parents in these situations are often more reluctant to stand in front of a camera. I'd like to think they are innocent but it is difficult to argue with forensic evidence.
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SLG
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Re: McCann's - Guilty or No Guilty | Reluctant Hero wrote: | | There is no way they could have kept up that pretence if they were guilty. |
That's what I feel about it. Could they really have gone through the whole campaign, meeting the Pope etc if it was all a lie? You'd think not, but then these things can spiral out of control. I think it's plausible, if unlikely, that something happened and rather than going to the authorities they tried to cover it up and it has got bigger and bigger.
All the other possibilities are very unlikely as well though.
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Cymro
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I really don't know about these two. Something is seriously strange about this case. This has got more publicity then anyother simmilar missing child case.
From what I'd heard the Police had found traces of the little girls DNA in a car the family hired after she was reported missing.
I do think it's only right that a link between the parents and the dissapearance is investigated though. Painful though this may be they'd be silly not too.
I don't think she'll ever be found though, and until then we won't know for sure who was responsible.
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Rinty
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I dont think it possible to decide based on the news reports, its possible that they did something, its possible thats it just police procedure and there is nothing much to it.
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Cymro
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Of course it is, but I also think it's pretty clear that the way this case was dealt with by the press and the authorities is completely different to how other missing child cases have been dealt with. I do feel that rightly or wrongly they have used the press, and now the Police are investigating them, they seem to oppose the media intrusion. Can't have it both ways I'm afraid, however tragic the case.
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parkhead_rfb
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you do all realise this isnt an episode of taggart here?
its a real family and a real wean thats went missing. i think having a poll on this is extremely distastefull.
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Cymro
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I'd agree the poll is distasteful. I don't think it's wrong to (within reason) discuss how the case has been dealt with though.
Have the Police been as bad as some make them out to be or could it be they just deal with things differently and we don't understand the Portugese criminal justice system?
Has the way the media been used been good, bad or wierd?
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azzuri
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The media has been absolutely terrible, the Sun newspaper in particular.
I'm not saying that I don;t care about the disappearance of this little girl, but people have to put it into perspective. Madeline McCann is one of only THOUSANDS of kids to go missing in Europe every single year, so what's so special about this particular case that it's turned into a media circus? Every time I read or hear about it, I just feel like turning off the tv or closing the newspaper, the way the media have acted over this to give themselves a story makes me want to vomit.
If I were being completely honest, I'd suggest there are 2 reasons why this has been all over the media during the last few months;
1. It happened abroad, therefore being able to say, "Oh isn't that missing child case in Portugal terrible, that'd never happen in Britain" etc.,
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2. The media needed another tragedy to latch onto in order to fill their pages, and what better than a British toddler going missing abroad to kickstart a bunch of campaigns with posters of her face featuring 'The Sun' logo.
It's a tragedy for the family, as it is for all families who have to go through this sort of thing. You wonder what other families who have had children gone missing are thinking over this full affair and the media coverage aligned with it?
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sgmillerton
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i have to say my impressiion of gerry mcann is of a somewhat controlling character, i just do not trust him despite the media giving him a halo. and all these relatives who, i feel are having there 15 minutes of fame decrying the potrugese cops as some sort of ramshackle gang of idiots.
i do believe that this may well end up as some sort of minor diplomatic crisis between the portugese govt. and the british govt. considering the mudslinging going on.
i also feel that those attemtion seekers, philomeena and gerry mcann will end up with egg on their faces with their undignified outburst's.
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Cymro
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Personally I hope they didn't do it - on purpose or a tragic accident, as the ones who will suffer most are their families, the people who every day have been on the front pages and the news supporting the parents and trying (rightly or wrongly) to do what they thought best.
Part of me doesn't think we'll ever get the answer - the little girl won't be found, we won't know what happened, the parents will have this tag of 'did they didn't they' hanging over them and the case will just become forgotten. Which is probaby the saddest outcome for everyone.
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sgmillerton
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| Cymro wrote: | Personally I hope they didn't do it - on purpose or a tragic accident, as the ones who will suffer most are their families, the people who every day have been on the front pages and the news supporting the parents and trying (rightly or wrongly) to do what they thought best.
Part of me doesn't think we'll ever get the answer - the little girl won't be found, we won't know what happened, the parents will have this tag of 'did they didn't they' hanging over them and the case will just become forgotten. Which is probaby the saddest outcome for everyone. |
who do you hope did do it?
a gang of kiddie snatchers roaming holiday resorts?
robert murrat?
i saw this on another forum 'hoping they did not do it' utterley bizzare.
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Cymro
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Well obviously as a normal person I'd be hoping she's still alive. However if I'm going to be cold about it, I think she has been killed. In terms of who I'd rather have done it then anyone but the parents, the reaction if it turns out they where involved will be unimaginable due to their audience with the Pope, Beckham TV Advert etc.
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sgmillerton
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| Cymro wrote: | | Well obviously as a normal person I'd be hoping she's still alive. However if I'm going to be cold about it, I think she has been killed. In terms of who I'd rather have done it then anyone but the parents, the reaction if it turns out they where involved will be unimaginable due to their audience with the Pope, Beckham TV Advert etc. |
more fool them (pope, beckham etc) for getting involved. i do not disagee with what you say and hope nshe is alive but i ask again who would you prefer to have done it if not the parents. this is not murder-idol. chances are it was the parents going by how the vast majority of children who are murdered are done so by prents/relatives.
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Cymro
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Sorry but asking me who I'd prefered to have kileld a little girl if not her parents is just f***ing daft.
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sgmillerton
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| Cymro wrote: | | Sorry but asking me who I'd prefered to have kileld a little girl if not her parents is just f***ing daft. |
i know, and with all respect, as daft as saying who you would prefer it would not be.
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Cymro
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I don't agree. I explained to you why. It's all well saying "yeah well they shouldn't have got involved" but the truth is they did. The impact if it turns out that it was them behidn it all along will be far more long reaching than if it was another person, however disgusting the crime committed.
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sgmillerton
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| Cymro wrote: | | I don't agree. I explained to you why. It's all well saying "yeah well they shouldn't have got involved" but the truth is they did. The impact if it turns out that it was them behidn it all along will be far more long reaching than if it was another person, however disgusting the crime committed. |
i still disagree with you but i do agree that it may make 'celebs' and publicity whores think twice b4 jumping onto any bandwagon they can to get some good pr.
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Cymro
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Pope = Celeb or Publicity whore?
Well I've heard him called a lot of things, but thats a new one!
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sgmillerton
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| Cymro wrote: | Pope = Celeb or Publicity whore?
Well I've heard him called a lot of things, but thats a new one! |
publicity whore?
ach you know what i meant.
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Cymro
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I know what you mean. don't agree with you though. I think they believed they where doing the right thing as a result of all the publicity at the time - the same goes for the pic of her put on the score board at Wembley during the FA Cup final, and the pics of her up and down the country in airports etc. Because all the publicity generated by the parents and the media, people have got involved. IF it turns out that after all this the parents where in someway involved all this good will is going to turn into anger never before seen in the UK. In cases like that of Sarah Payne where it was not the parents while people have been appalled and disgusted people have not 'trusted' the parents like this.
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Holebender
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The press coverage of this case reminds me so much of the coverage of those two girls who went missing in Soham, and turned out to have been murdered by Ian Huntley. If the missing person isn't a cute blonde white girl the press don't want to know, but if she is... unlimited coverage.
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Morph
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if it does turn out to be the parents then not only has the little girl been a victim but also Beckham and the pope as well. Watch Beckhams appeal for information, it is heartfelt and he is speaking as a father himself, the popeas a religious fgure was trying to aid a devout catholic mother.
I am sorry to say this but i just dont trust them, i havent seen teh type of raw emotion that a parent who has just lost their child should show
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RadgeJougal
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I think it is one story amongst many, which has been overinflated to make the media look good.
Her body is probably not far from the villa, and she probably died less than two days after disappearing.
Lots of children disappear, but for some reason the press have jumped on these professionals, like they did on the Soham.
It's a manufactured sensation.
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Holebender
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Apparently 450 other British children have disappeared in the time since Madelaine McCann went missing. You wouldn't know it from the press coverage, would you?
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RadgeJougal
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exactly
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