2014 GAMES COME TO GLASGOW

mairead · 2014 GAMES COME TO GLASGOW

Great news for a great city.

sgmillerton

well done indeed, a very positive thing for glasgow. can you imagine the outrge though when the king/queen are at the opening ceremony and a rousing rendition of gstq.

Cymro

Don't think there will be an outrage Sg. Most of Scotland still seems to be pro Monarchy. Also may republics (Nigeria being the other candidate included) are Republics but memebers of the Commonwealth. Would be interesting to see whether Republicans (in the true sense not the Northern Irish definition) support the Games though.

Certainly a good thing for Glasgow and will have a far better impact on sport in terms on investment than the Olympics will.

Shame football isn't in the games.

sgmillerton

i was being sarcy thats all but the more i think about it, it could be king billy at pakhead singing gstq and applauding for the ulster team and red hand banners. i'm sure you can see the funny side.

carol

It would be interesting to know what % of Sotland still supports the Monarchy. I wouldn't have thought most Cymro Confused

It is excellent news Margaret, unfortunately my little one has hijacked the TV and it's cartoons that's been on most of the day Confused

regards

Carol

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Rinty

"it could be king billy at pakhead singing gstq and applauding for the ulster team and red hand banners. i'm sure you can see the funny side."

er, uslter dont have a team in the commonwelath games, you might be getting mixed up with rugby where the border that separates the counties of ulster doesnt exist in that sport. And red hands are flown at celtic park every week so whats the problem???? Parkie's band have a flag with a red hand of ulster on it, I saw it in a video at the GOMA.

BTW, does anyone else find it strange that miller, a supposed hibs fan, sees the commonwealth games not in a glasgow v edinburgh context but in an anti-celtic context? All he is interested in is whether a game will be at celtic park and whether GSTQ will be sung there. Somes hibs fan Smile

Cymro

Doesn't look like Celtic Park or Ibrox are being used anyway. Shame in a way as it would be a good opportunity to show case both places for other compeitions.

Aventinian

Rinty

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Northern Ireland has a team yes but thats a bit like saying that america has a tyeam, it's called canada.

tb miller was referring to red hand banners. The red hand is an all uslter symbol that isnt exclusive to any side of the divide and applies equally to the three Ulster counties in the republic, Monaghan, Cavan and Donegal. So in that context it is hardly pedantic.

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mairead

ach well, meybe by then Scotland will be independent and the opening could go to the first minister who is in power then, or does Queenie go to open all the commonwealth games anyway?

iainmhor

Scotland out of the commonwealth by 2014. All hail the coming Scottish Republic.

sgmillerton

like australia amongst others?

Rinty

whats ibrox being used for?

parkhead is being used for the opening ceremony as it is seen as the best option to stage such an event, and it is next to the new indoor arena and the athletes village.

It may surprise you that UEFA dont organise the commonwealth games.

carol

Margaret she's head of the Commonwealth, I think she'd need to be there, not unless the monarchy's kicked out by then!

sgmillerton

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sgmillerton

Cymro

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sgmillerton

that was easy, i suspect that this is why the bid only wanted to use the 5 star stdiums for sporting events which makes sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Stadia_List

will live from Glasgow

i am extremely happy that Glasgow got the commonwealth games,though in my mind there was never any doubt that we would. Apart from the simple opportunity of being able to show off our city on the world stage it will mean a legacy of new facilities and other projects that will be of use long after 2014.

If Scotland were to become independent there is no question in my mind that we would remain part of the commonwealth,

From the commonwealth of nations website:"The Commonwealth is a voluntary association of 53 independent sovereign states consulting and co-operating in the common interests of their peoples and in the promotion of international understanding and world peace."

now who could possibly be against that?

as far as the monarchy goes the understood SNP platform is that if their was public demand there would be a referendum to decide whether scotland becomes a republic,and this of course would have absolutlely nothing to do with member ship of the commonwealth.

Because the monarchy doesnt actually have an impact on people's everyday lives,and we live in a liberal democracy where they couldnt even if they wanted to, i dont think there will be much demand for getting rid of them, its not that people support them,its just that they dont oppose them that much.

iainmhor

Cymro

I quite like the Commomwealth to be honest. There was talk a few years ago of the RoI joining the Commonwealth as a Republic alongside India etc. Was bought up as part of the Good Friday Agreement. Went nowhere though as neither side (the British Government, the Irish Government, Republicans and Unionists) saw it as that important for the Agreement to go through.

Aventinian

Babygael

The world's bitterest small country??????????????????

And why would that be ave darlin'? Goat ony reasons?

My feeling is that ony country that hud tae accomodate a Foreign country

I guess that might just cause some BITTERNESS after 300 yrs Razz

There is something that I never asked of you Ave, and that is...... Do you care for scotlands heros?

Scots as a race?

Do you see scotland as a Country in it's own right as it was ?

Do you despise your own race?

Do you care that so many of yours and my ancestors died in Battle to preserve Scotland from the saxon barstewards??

Do you care for the scots warriors who lay burried at Culloden and on so many other battle fields since ?

Does it matter to you that some of these might be your own anccestors?

Do you care at all?

Are you a traitor to your 'ain folk and country?

Do you know what we think of folk like you?

I guess not.

agentmancuso

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Aventinian

BG: Scots are not a race, and even if they were I couldn't care less. I am not a racist.

SLG

I think the whole thing is a bit of a waste of money. I can't believe we have to wait until we get the chance to host a sporting event before we can come up with the money to try and regenerate areas of deprivation. Will the Commonwealth sporting village (or whatever it's called) end up as the type of housing we want in that area? I also don't think that from a sporting point of view, building the new venues is a good way to spend the little money we have.

I think that politically, it is good news for Salmond as it will be perceived as a success for him - or more importantly, would have been perceived as a personal failure if Glasgow had not won.

Cymro

Can't agree with that SLG. Yes, it's sad that they have to wait for this sort of thing before regenerating an area which clearly needs it. However I'd imagine hosting one of the worlds main sporting events releases a hell of a lot of funding - public and private that wouldn't be available otherwise.

I gather the Athletes Village will be developed into housing after the games are over. Not knowing the area I can imagine there is some need for housing, either to replace those all ready there or to cater for an expanding city. It is obviously important that this development is intergrated into the existing communities and not as a new ghetto and therefore important that the area is affordable for people who all ready live in the area.

Economically it will be huge for Scotland, even if it's just from the journalists, fans, families, dignatories and competitors all staying and spending money in the area. When Wales hosted the Rugby World Cup in 1999 loads of developments took place - Millenium Stadium built instead of the old National Stadium, my local club, Wrexham FC's ground was redeveloped inorder to host some rugby matches, new hotels opened. After the games finished the FA Cup, League Cup and Play Offs where played at the Mill Stad as Wembley was being redone as well as Rugby League and Union matches, huge concerts and boxing matches (and other stuff). If it wasn't for the RWC these wouldn't have come.

It's also a good way of showing off a new Scotland. Something which the SNP would be putting a lot of work into I'd imagine.

SLG

Why does it take this event to release the funding though? What would happen to that money if the games weren't coming to Glasgow? Aye, there will be some private funding through advertising that wouldn't otherwise be there, but I'm not sure that is enough to compensate for the public money that will be written off after the event.

Regarding the housing, it may well work. Again, I just can't help assuming that the housing will be designed to meet the needs of the competitors, media etc. Not the needs of a deprived urban community. Maybe they can marry the two, I'll be impressed if they can though. That said, the quality of housing developments here is poor as it is, so this probably can't be any worse.

I've no doubt that over all it will be good for the east end of Glasgow and beyond. My point is about value for money. We're going to spend £300m odd on this - probably well over that. We could spend half that on the developments that we really need, and the rest, we could use to cover 'lost revenues' by not hosting the event. I think if we did that, we would save money overall and could spend it elsewhere.

sgmillerton

i was thinking this today, it's all very well aying this be community housing after the games but as we know 'community housing' is just another name for where the bams end up. how often is it said, 'oh those new/redevolped houses look nice' until the local authorities put into them the same bams back into them who turned the place into hell in the first place.

Celtic Indian

Great news for the community of Dalmarnock.One of the poorest in the UK.

Budget currently stands at £298m.Lets see how high it gets.

Cymro

Aventinian

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SLG

agentmancuso

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sgmillerton

agentmancuso

sgmillerton

no doubts. i'm quite certain the situation is similar in snp, tory and whatever ranks in terms of their leader.

mairead

Joke macConnell !!!Statesman like!!!.
Aye when he was wearing his wooly pin striped skirt in America he sure looked like a statesman-NOT.
If that is the best example of a statesman you can think of, Lord help us. He was a squirming, slease ball of a politician, with a forked tongue, to boot..

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