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| Wolf of Badenoch |
Ocean Spray involved in Animal Crueltyhttp://getactive.peta.org/campaign/ocean_sprayInjecting mice with toxic chemicals and illnesses to help promote health benefits of their drink. |
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| SLG |
I don't think it's quite that simple, although Ocean Spray might be funding the research, it looks to me as thought they are funding independent researchers to investigate the general health benefits of certain compounds found in cranberries. Those researchers have then proposed an animal model as part of that research. I'm not sure about the US, but here they would have to apply for ethical approval. If peta have a problem with this research, they might be better taking it up with the regulatory body that approved it. | ||
| kathyv |
pets's issues in the states are so biased as to be unbelievable at times!
There was one year at a 4-H dog show event here in Oregon, where several peta members went through the waiting areas and opened crates of dogs who were at the show. Kids come from all over the state for events like this and dogs are trained to be in their crates, much like having their own room, anyway, they set crated dogs free, down town in a large city, allowing them to be loose and scared. Basically they intruded in an area where they had no business, violated people's property, set unknown and terrified animals free and called it fair because it's cruel to pen up an animal. About this same time they were picketing the Portland zoo demanding all the animals there be set free as well. I wonder where they wanted the lions to go? heeheehee |
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| Morph |
I also think that sometimes PETA and other organisations take a very simplistic animal testing stance. If animals, in small quantities and only after computer models are found inconclussive, are used in medical research i feel this is justified. However i do agree that animals should not be used in the cases of cosmetic researh, can anyone help me out by tellin me why the makers of a drink needed to test on animals? | ||
| SLG |
They make a cranberry based drink. They want to make claims as to the health benefits of cranberries in order to increase sales. As far as I can make out, they have funded scientists to investigate. The scientists have used many different means to do this, including using animal models. I presume that to get ethical approval, the research would have to have more depth than justifying a drinks companies claims to have health benefits. So they might want to identify compounds that could form the basis for new drugs etc. | ||
| Babygael |
Wolfie, tiddles LOVES ae guid mouse supper!!Furthier mair, An dinna discourage the lassie.
SLG, where in the wirld dae ye get all that info?? Or are ye jist a smart laddie?? BG  
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| SLG |
I just had a wee look at ocean spray site where they reference the published research that peta were complaining about. The work they're doing isn't a million miles away from what I'm doing at the moment. Although in case anyone wants to firebomb my house, I'm not involved in any animal testing  And wouldn't take any job that required me to be.
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| Babygael |
SLG ah wuidna want tae fire bomb yer hoose!! 
Ah canna imagin daein suich ae thing in ony case! Fer yer information, ah wis brough up as ae law abidin citizen! BG
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| Wolf of Badenoch |
Sae does ma monster,if a could get some ae they meeces yon Ocean Spray are ersing aboot wi{sorry,i meant that ocean spray are asking others tae erse aboot wi} id hae the healthiest cat in the world,aw fu ae big meece an cranberries.
Here dae ye mind whae used tae say meece? "I hate those meeces to pieces" he wid say. 
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| Babygael |
Here's yet anither tasty treat fer ye!
http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1692671/ BG
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| Wolf of Badenoch |
Hope it turned intae drumsticks an battered his guts oot! 
My pal used tae eat things he wisnae supposed tae,pint tumblers,cigarettes,gold fish and widden tables, im nae sure if he widhae ate wan ae yon though. |
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| SLG |
Is he still alive??? | ||
| Babygael |
Indeed SLG!!!! 
BG 
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| Wolf of Badenoch |
Aye hes daeing nae bad tae.I always mind the first time he ate a pint tumbler in a pub an then sterted eating wan ae the widdin tables,we got thrown oot that nicht. He used tae delve intae fish tanks if thaur wis yin at a party an swally a fish or twa,i always hoped that he wid pull oot a piranha.
That widhae put a stop tae his high jinks. 
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| Babygael |
Wal Wolfie ah cuid onderstan ae little sushi here an ae little sushi ther.Och man, widden tables, glass tumblers?? Next time ahm in toon, ah'l luik fer teeth marks oan the pub furniture!!
An ah'll smile knowingly!!
BG 
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