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| Gus A |
Petition to Save the Scottish Labour PartyWendy has done her best, but even her 'formidable intellect' can't save her. The sad truth is that Scottish Labour are a hopeless unelectable shambles of corrupt non-entities.Wee Dougy ****ed up an entire election and kept his job, now Bendy Wendy has gone one better and ballsed up an election woth just one candidate. Only one man has the experience, the media savy and the tactical nouse to save the day. That man is Baron Foulkes of Cumnock. It's time to Send for the Baron! Go here to back the campaign, leave a comment in support and sign the petition: [url] http://1820.org.uk/2007/12/send_for_the_baron.shtml[/url] |
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| Hendry |
OK I'll say it first.
So this is for Foulke's sake? |
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| Aventinian |
He's really annoy the Nationalists. Whether he's an electoral asset or not is another matter altogether. | ||||||
| Niall |
Re: Petition to Save the Scottish Labour Party
"We'rr a' doomed! Ah tell ye! Doomed!" Quote private Fraser Dad's Army. By all mean have George Foulks as leader of the Labour party. In a short few weeks the Labour party in Scotland will resemble the OOZLUM BIRD which flies round in ever decreasing circles until it disapears up its own elemental orifice. 
'S mise le meas Niall. |
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| Aventinian |
Re: Petition to Save the Scottish Labour Party
Can we take that to mean you don't much care for the good Baron? |
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| Holebender |
good? That's quite a stretch isn't it? | ||||||
| RadgeJougal |
Load of Balls [That's enough. Ed.] |
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| VLK |
Isnīt there any mechanism in the party to challenge the party-leader in the middle of the term. Iīm sure that most Labour MSPīs even though supporting Alexander in public are very worried about the alternative that she would somehow get away with this crisis because the Scottish people wonīt forget at the polls, if they do, the SNP will keep on reminding them of what has happened.
Well, 2011 is still a long way ahead. |
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| Holebender |
The next UK General Election is closer than that, and people in Scotland are far less likely to vote Labour than they were in previous elections. I doubt if they're going to vote Tory, so what does that leave?
30 SNP MPs is all it takes to trigger independence. |
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| Maol.Chaluim |
Hmm, I wonder what'll happen to the Unionist argument in that event... | ||||||
| Holebender |
Oh then it'll be all referendum this and referendum that, or more likely they'll argue that those 30 were only elected by 20% of the electorate or some-such, even though that argument completely delegitimises every UK government since universal suffrage. | ||||||
| Niall |
Re: Petition to Save the Scottish Labour Party
You could say that.....
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| Gus A |
Hw do you mean "30 SNP MPs is all it takes to trigger independence" Holebender? | ||||||
| Holebender |
We have been told many times by Unionists that a nationalist majority among Scotland's MPs is all it will take for independence. Scotland has 59 MPs so 30 is a majority. | ||||||
| Maol.Chaluim |
... and we're constantly told that "Scotland doesn't want independence" because there's currently a majority of Unionist MPs. | ||||||
| Aventinian |
Care to cite that? I don't think I've ever heard anything of the sort. For one, nobody has the authority to make such a declaration except Parliament on the day the question is put to it. Moreover, the SNP are not standing on a platform of independence, but rather a referendum on independence.
Ah, excellent. Either way, it's to the benefit of the Tory Party. Somehow I think on the next election night it will be me doing the wild celebrating rather than any of you chaps. 
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| Aventinian |
Oh look, another mysterious quote attributed to those dastardly Unionists that I've mysteriously never heard before in my life. |
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| Maol.Chaluim |
If you kindly read my post, you'll find it does not attribute the quote to any one person or group. It's more of an illustration of the argument, though it has been said verbatim on occasion.
Do you mean to say that you have never heard anyone, whether a Unionist politician or anyone else, stating, for example, that the voters have "rejected independence at the ballot box" or words to that effect? |
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| Maol.Chaluim |
... and here's the latest example:
From this article in the Sunday Herald. Well? |
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| billalba |
Aventian...you say you've never heard that quote..but Nicole the lib and his ex labour friends are constantly saying that!!! do you no listen... | ||||||
| Mctosh45 |
Aventinian
I see your obfuscating again
30 S.N.P. M.P's. and it's goodbye union
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| Aventinian |
Nope. If you can't understand what I'm saying, I'd suggest a using a dictionary.
What a load of rubbish. At least I don't rely on using stupid pictures of giggling faces to add content to my posts. Whilst I'm sure it goads the SNP that they've been roundly trounced at every election they've ever stood in by 'the Unionists', I don't see why I should bother listening to your idiotic ramblings.
No they haven't. |
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| Aventinian |
Referring of course to the polls they were discussing, and likely the Scottish Parliamentary elections in which she earned her job. |
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| RadgeJougal |
It would be good for all of us if Jackie Baillie joined the CND publicly. | ||||||
| mairead |
Of course Aventinian will have heard it, he just chooses not to let on that he has.
Our Aventianian only says most things to annoy as many folk as he can, and I don't think even he believes everything he writes, that's why he signs as the resident pantomime villain. |
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