Lothian Sky
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Prince Michael of AlbanyWhat's the general consensus about this guy?
Would he make a good king? Does he still have the right to the "throne"?
Wouldn't a figurehead be a good thing for Scotland? Think how much it would p!ss off HRH!!!!
I've always considered myself to be a republican, but would the nationalist movement reject this guys links with out past?
I don't really care either way, as long as the Windsors GTF!
Who's head would we put on our coins though?
http://www.royalhouseofstewart.org.uk/
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Masaryk
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I tend to agree with Lothian Sky. By instinct I'm a republican but that's got more to do with the fact that the English Royal Family is just that and have the ternacity to call their eldest son Prince of Wales. I'm not against the English Royal Family per se - that's something for the English to decide on.
I'm also a little scared of the idea of a British Republic - the French Republic is awful in its treatment of Bretons, Basques etc.
There's a good reason then for a Scottish royal family.
1. People like royalty - better then read about a Scottish royal family in Hello than the British one.
2. They've got no real power
3. It's not the Windsors
4. It's monarchy on independence terms
5. it makes breaking up the union easier as it keeps roaylists happy.
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garye
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Wasn't this guy recently revealed to be a total fraudster and his whole lineage made up?
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SLG
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I'm sure someone else will come on here with more details, but he does seem to have been discredited. If he is genuine, I'd rather have him than Betty Windsor, but I'd rather have neither. No Monarch for me. And noone's head on the back of our coins, monarch or otherwise.
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carol
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| garye wrote: | | Wasn't this guy recently revealed to be a total fraudster and his whole lineage made up? |
Where would you like me to start? I've been looking into his background for the last 4 months after I picked up contact with Gordon MacGregor Comrie the guy responsible for his recent exposure.
The article that kick started it http://www.sundayherald.com/54904
I was once a follower and used to convince myself he was genuine, can kick myself now when thinking back to the times I've referred to him as HRH or Prince Michael, thankfully I've never knealt down in front of him and kissed his hand or feet!!
I did move for a short time within his 'inner circle' realised then I could not promote this guy as I didn't believe in him 100% (at that time we were expected to contact cultural, heritage societies etc to help push him forward).
I've obviously taken a stance against him, lost a few friends in the process as there are ones out the who stupidly believe he is genuine, or whose attitude is so what he's been a great ambassador for our country.
Speculation is he has fled the country, the Home Office are chasing him, Interpol have been alerted, Charities Regulator is investigating him and the Sovereign Military Order of Malta (SMOM) are also investigating him.
His British citizenship has since been revoked as it's clearly evident that he presented a false birth certificate.
So yep assurances from me he is as bogus as hell.
Carol
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carol
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Re: Prince Michael of Albany | Lothian Sky wrote: |
Who's head would we put on our coins though?
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Definitely not his own, his real name is Michel Roger Lafosse
Carol
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IF Convenor
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I'm sure there are plenty of suitable symbols we can put on our coins without embarrassing ourselves with a wee Belgian. We find enough pictures for our banknotes, don't we?
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True Scotsman
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I doubt he would become the King of Scotland. According too most articles
there is no or very little evidence too his claim too the Scottish Thone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Lafosse
http://www.chivalricorders.org/royalty/fantasy/stuart.htm
http://www.jacobite.ca/essays/lafosse.htm
According too other sources the rightful heir to the Scottish Throne is Franz, Duke of Bavaria.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz%2C_Duke_of_Bavaria
http://www.jacobite.ca/index.htm
http://www.jacobite.ca/kings/francis2.htm
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Maol.Chaluim
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I can trace my ancestry back to the Stewarts, along with thousands of other people, no doubt.
I do like the sound of Maol Chaluim V, though...
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Aventinian
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| True Scotsman wrote: | | According too other sources the rightful heir to the Scottish Throne is Franz, Duke of Bavaria |
Surely the rightful heir to the Scottish throne is quite obvious - the person appointed by the people through their representatives in Parliament? As far as I was aware, the Claim of Right still stood.
On another matter, I'm wondering why anyone would possibly label the House of Windsor as the 'English Royal Family' - something which is blatently false. James VII's Crown was removed and heir disqualified in this territory by an Act of the Parliament of Scotland.
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Chookie
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Think about it folks, the Crown and Throne of England were surrendered to the Scottish Royal family in 1603. The English throne, being vacant was subsumed to that of Scots to create the throne of the "United Kingdom".
The poor deluded person then sitting on the throne of Scotland promptly buggered of to England.
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SLG
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Absolutely right Chookie. Tells you all you need to know about how much respect they had for Scotland and her people.
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carol
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True Scotsman
The first person to expose Michel Roger Lafosse was a Jack MacDonald in 1980 http://sociologyesoscience.com/esoterica/michaell.html (scroll down). I was handed a copy of this report at Bannockburn about 5 years ago. 30 years Michel Roger Lafosse has pulled this scam for
Hopefully the chapter is near an end, the RHoS can't continue much longer promoting a fraudulent prince. Michael of Albany and his bogus RHoS no longer exist.
Carol
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azzuri
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No one has ever questioned the timing of 'Michael Lafosse' and his entry to Scotland.
Is it just me or is it a coincidence that a Belgian comes over to Scotland in the mid-70s claiming to be the rightful heir to the Scots throne? The surprising thing is that he does actually look (facially) very much like the Stewart monarchs and the young pretender himself.
...given the cover up with Oil, Willie McCrae etc. in the mid-70s and it being at the 'height' of Nationalism, couldn't it all have been a government set-up that they hoped nationalists would latch onto, and then 'outing' him when the time was right (i.e. if Independence was to ever become close to reality, thus discrediting the whole Nationalist cause)?
I know that sounds extremely paranoid, but given what we know the government hid from Scots about the North Sea Oil, and the suspicious Willie McCrae death - it's not hard to be paranoid when you are a Nationalist.
Maybe he was outed now because there was no longer a use for him. Lets face it, hardly anyone in the Nationalist cause actually believed in him or latched onto the cause, and most believe that Scotland would be an Independent Republic anyway.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you!!!!
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carol
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you're paranoid
Michael's supporters are led to believe that he came direct from Belgium to 'home' soil, he came via London, it's speculated that he and the Templar who introduced HRH to Scotland concocted the story between them.
And then the journey of deception begins..........
How did he get away with it? When things got too hot he disappeared. I'm not sure what happened between Jack's report and his next lot of protential supporters. He was first introduced into my area in the early 90's, at that time it was into Gordon's circle, the time came when they wanted to check his credentials and Michael disbanded the group and disappeared. Then he surfaced I think in the mid 90's in Jacobite circles and has moved in them ever since. His fantasy fueled by those that believed in him. Gordon has been on his trail for years and had evidence of his false birth certificate a few years ago, he also produced a copy of his genuine Lafosse birth certificate which his now supporters claimed as false. All Gordon's evidence was handed over to the Home Office at the end of last year.
Michael secured his UK passport in 2004 a few years after receiving British Citizenship. In between the two he secured a dodgy diplomatic passport issued through a self styled order of St John, he also gained the Mickey Mouse title of cultural attache, for Sao Tome with his own embassy, in reality the embassy did not exist the address is the office of a world wide Aid Organisation. He's deceived many with his 'diplomatic' status.
For more info on his birth certificates and his diplomatic status http://www.perthshireheritage.co.uk/Albany_info_page.html
Carol
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sandmountainslim
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| Maol.Chaluim wrote: | I can trace my ancestry back to the Stewarts, along with thousands of other people, no doubt.
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MILLIONS including myself from James IV.
At least my king didn't sell out the country and move to Englandshire
When HE went there he went armed to the hilt!
Deo Vindice
WP
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