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| Reluctant Hero |
Rugby League WC - Scotland 18 Fiji 16Scotland (12) 18Tries: Steel, Robertson, Wilkes Goals: Brough 3 Fiji (4) 16 Tries: Tadulala 2, Bukuya Goals: Naiqama 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scotland's Iain Morrison tries to break through the Fiji defence A late try by Oliver Wilkes, converted by Danny Brough, gave Scotland a narrow victory over Fiji to claim their first-ever World Cup win. But the margin of victory was not enough to put Scotland into the semi-final qualifier against Ireland. Semi Tadulala looked to have given Fiji the win with his second try eight minutes from time. But Steve McCormack's side refused to give up and Wilkes went over three minutes later to secure the victory. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scotland: Robertson, Liddell, Nanyn, K. Henderson, Steel, Duffy, Brough, Wilkes, Fisher, Logan, Morrison, Armit, I. Henderson. Replacements: A. Henderson, Morton, Jackson, Lowe. Fiji: Hayne, Tadulala, Naiqama, Koroi, Uate, Bradley-Qalilawa, Groom, Divavesi, Sukanaveita, Vonomateiratu, Sims, Tora, Bukuya. Replacements: Sadrau, Wesele, Macilai, Nauqe. Referee: Leon Williamson (New Zealand) http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/7705117.stm |
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| Babygael |
Thats fantastic RH! I saw pictures of those Fiji guys....realy biggggggg dudes!  unfortunately I didn't see the match although I would have if I could have.
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| Blackleaf |
Rugby League is a real sport. I like Rugby Union but Rugby League is far superior. Union is too much stop-start-stop-start, whereas League is much more continuous play like football. I can't understand why England is the only country in the British Isles in which the game is really popular.
And we've also won the Rugby League World Cup three times. |
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| Cymro |
You're clearly confusing your rugbys here Blackleaf. "Stop Start Stop Start".
Is that the rugby league that for every 5th tackle the game has to STOP and reSTART on top of the same things that stop and start the match in rugby union - Scrum, Ruck, lineouts, kicks etc. Rugby League is quite a good sport and fitness level it's certain;y traditionally been a lot higher in League. This is changing though. Rugby Union is far more popular in England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland than Rugby League for the simple reason that it's better. Oh and Wales stopped competing properly due to financial problems years ago. Before then when the likes of Scott Gibbs, Scott Quinnell, Jonothan Davies etc all played League the Welsh team was regarded as a very good one. England has been s***e since the departure of the likes of Offiah. |
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| Blackleaf |
Rugby League doesn't stop after every fifth tackle. Every team has a "set of six". If a team is tackled six times in a row during their possession, they hand possession over to the opposing team. So, usually, before the sixth tackle takes place, the player with the ball kicks it down field towards the opposition try line to attempt to score a try that way. This usually happens after the fifth tackle. If that team regains possession after they've kicked it, they then have another set of six. Usually, though, the opposition retrieve the ball and have their set of six. It's not often play stops after the fifth tackle. And in rugby league there are NO lineouts, so play doesn't stop every couple of minutes whenever the ball goes out of play to take a lineout. When the ball goes out of play in rugby league, which is much less often than in union, a scrum is awarded to the defending team 20metres in from the point the ball went out of play. There are also no rucks in League and no mauls and the scrums are uncontested. In rugby union, whenever a player is tackled to the ground, there then follows a situtation where you have bodies of people piling on top of one another, trying to retrieve the ball. In rugby league, this doesn't happen. As soon as a player is tackled to the ground, the opposition must leave him alone, retreat 10 metres, and the tackled player passes the ball on to a team-mate by a back pass. There is none of the messy stuff that union has. And rugby league isn't less popular in England than rugby union. It's a North-South divide. If you live in the South, you like the Guinness Prmiership with teams such as Bath, London Wasps and Leicester. If you live in the North, all you hear about is Rugby League teams such as Wigan Warriors, St Helens, Leeds Rhinos, Widnes Vikings, Warrington Wolves. Union has almost no following in the North of England and is seen more of a posh game. There isn't much talk amongst the public and on local news and newspapers about Rugby Union in the North of England. Rugby League is king. Wigan Warriors have a bigger following in Wigan than Wigan Athletic FC. Ask 100 people in the North of England which is better, and not many of them will say Rugby Union. |
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| Blackleaf |
From next season, a Welsh team is competing in Super League for the first time (next season is Super League XIV. Before Super League, the First Division was the top tier). 
The Celtic Crusaders, who were in the English First Division last season, hail from Bridgend. They have the small matter of playing away against champions Leeds Rhinos on the opening day of the season on 6th February. |
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| Cymro |
Ruck and Maul though isn't stop start dear Blackleaf, it's still moving. And it's part of the move of the game.
5th Tackle, stop, everyone regains positions, player rolls in under feet and they get going again. Sounds stop start to me. |
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| Blackleaf |
It was you who said "Is that the rugby league that for every 5th tackle the game has to STOP and reSTART on top of the same things that stop and start the match in rugby union - Scrum, Ruck, lineouts, kicks etc." But you can call rucks and mauls stoppages. The game may still be underway but there be a period for a minute or two where the ball isn't moving around. It's just players crowding around trying to retrieve the ball. But 5th tackles in rugby league aren't always stoppages. As I've said, after each tackle in rugby league it's only a matter of 5 seconds or so after the player is tackled, the opposition move away, then he passes the ball to a teammate, and play proceeds as normal. It's hardly a stoppage. And stoppages often don't occur after every 5th tackle, because usually, after the 5th tackle, the team in possession usually kicks the ball downfield before they are tackled for a 6th time and either gain possession and have another set of 6 or the opposing team retrieve the ball. There are obviously stoppages in rugby league, just as there is in rugby union but, like football, there are much less of them in rugby league. The play in rugby league is more continual. And the points system in rugby league is superior. In rugby league it's 4 points for a try, 2 points for a conversion, 2 points for a penalty and 1 point for a drop goal. Considering that drop goals are only worth one point in rugby league but are worth three points in rugby union it makes rugby league teams try harder to get tries than rugby union teams who often just fall back on a 3-point drop goal instead. |
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| Babygael |
ENGLAND......6
NZ....erm 32 Oh dear leafy, where's Englands b@##$?? Hmmmmmmmmmm? 
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| Blackleaf |
In Rugby Union, England and Scotland have been drawn in the same group for the 2011 World Cup.
The Scots are their usual silly selves after they discovered this. Frank Hadden has said this is the perfect opportunity for his team to defeat those dreaded English - even though Scotland have only managed to beat England three times in 17 years. England will probably at least get to the Final of that tournament. The England rugby union team are like the Germany football team - despite how badly we play in meaningless friendlies, we always seem to get to somehow get to the Final of the World Cup. |
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| Blackleaf |
Coincidentally, that's the exact same scoreline it was when Scotland played New Zealand - Scotland 6-32 New Zealand. So who are you to poke fun? |
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| Cymro |
Ha ha ha ha, you really are a silly little creature aren't little boy? Probably get to the final? Have you managed to drag yourself away from your pathetic internet posts to watch the autumn internationals at all? Beaten by Australia, gubbed by South Africa, and beated heavily by New Zeland. Out of the 'home nations' the team that performed best against the World Champions South Africa where little old Scotland. An in my opinion in the next 6 Nations they are likely to win at least two matches. I'll let you work out which ones..... England at this moment in time can not play rugby. I have no doubt that Martin Johnson is good at psychic his toffs up but whether he can make them play? Well, not as things look so far. These Autumn Internationals where far from meaningless (again you should stop posting things you know sweet FA about - though you would probably find you'd have very little to post about Troll Boy), it was based on these that the deciding rankings where drawn for the next world cup. As a result of their pititful performances in the Autumn Internationals England dropped out of the Top 5 of World Rugby behind not only the Tri-Nations but also Argentina and Wales. It was through pure luck alone that they where drawn against the 4th ranked side and not the Top 3. Now don't for 1 second think the Argentinians will be a win. So far, it's odds on for an easy Argentina win. They are a very very good side. If England get to the Semi Finals, based at their current standards (or lack of) they'll do well to do that. |
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| kevin04 |
It's still 3 years away, and you're proclaiming you'll get to the final. What if you take a scalp from Us on the way or another side in our group and end up missing out? 3 years is a long long time away, a lot of things can happen before then. |
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