So whats the purpose of THEM printing this?

wisnaeme · So whats the purpose of THEM printing this?

So whats the purpose of a Labour orientated rag (Daily Retard's sister) printing this story? Are they feeling guilt ridden by past biased reportage? Hmm, some how I don't think so. So whats behind it? Yours, a suspicious Wisnaeme.

Salmond is leaping.

Scots want Alex as First Minister.

SNP support overtakes Labour.

Labour could lose Holyrood.

http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/print...bjectid=17971859&siteid=64736

Scott2006

Labour is going to build up the spectre of a Bogeyman type SNP destroying schools and hospitals like their usual scare tactics. This is part of their operation to put the frighteners on the apathetic Labour part of the electorate.

POLL RESULTS

Q1 If a Scottish Parliamentary election was held tomorrow how would you place your first vote for your local MSP?
SNP 35%
LABOUR 32%
LIB DEMS 16%
CONSERVATIVE 11%
SSP 4%
OTHERS 2%

Q2 If the election was tomorrow how would you place your 2nd vote?
SNP 28%
LIB DEMS 26%
LABOUR 25%
CONSERVATIVE 11%
SSP 5%
GREENS 4%
OTHERS 1%

Q3 Who would make the most effective First Minister for Scotland?
ALEX SALMOND 33%
JACK MCCONNELL 24%
ANNABEL GOLDIE 5%
NICOL STEPHEN 5%
NONE OF THE ABOVE 33%

Based on 350 telephone interviews, representative of the general population, conducted by Progressive Partnership from Wednesday to Friday last week.

Labour got 660,000+ votes in 2003, I believe they probably will still get 600,000+ votes for the constituencies next May as they usually rally to Labour again at election time. This is just another good opinion poll for the SNP - the trouble will be to make it stick.

http://www.ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/scottish-voting-intention/

Westminster Voting Intention
---------------- Survey End Date CON (%) LAB (%) LD (%) SNP (%) Grn (%) SSP (%)
MORI Jun 2006------------------------17 -------36 ------17 ------24 -------? -------?
TNS System Three/SNP 07/04/06 -14 -------45 ------14 ------23 -------? -------2
MORI Mar 2006 -----------------------19 -------44 ------17 ------16 -------? -------?
TNS System Three/SNP 02/02/06 -15 --------42 ------16 ------22 -------? ------2

Holyrood Voting Intention (Constituency Vote)
--------------- Survey End Date CON (%) LAB (%) LD (%) SNP (%) Grn (%) SSP (%)
YouGov/Sunday Times 08/09/06 14 -------30 ------18 -------29 -------? ----------?
TNS System Three 29/08/06 -----12 -------36 ------17 -------28 -------3 ---------4
TNS System Three 01/08/06 -----13 -------37 ------14 -------29 -------2 ---------3
TNS System Three 04/07/06 -----11 -------37 ------14 -------31 -------3 ---------3
MORI Jun 2006 ---------------------15 -------28 ------19 -------30 -------4 ---------1
YouGov/SNP 03/04/06 ------------14 -------30 -------20 -------26 ------4 ---------4
MORI Mar 2006 --------------------14 -------38 -------17 -------24 ------1 ---------4
MORI Sep 2005 --------------------16 -------40 -------17 -------21 ------1 ---------3
MORI Jun 2005 ---------------------13 -------40 -------21 -------22 -----1 ----------1

Holyrood Voting Intention (Regional Vote)
---------------- Survey End Date CON (%) LAB (%) LD (%) SNP (%) Grn (%) SSP (%)
YouGov/Sunday Times 08/09/06 -14 -------27 ------15 ------29 --------? ----------?
TNS System Three 29/08/06 ------11 -------28 ------19 ------27 --------8 --------6
TNS System Three 01/08/06 ------10 -------29 ------15 ------32 --------8 --------4
TNS System Three 04/07/06 -------9 -------29 -------17 ------33 --------5 --------5
MORI Jun 2006 ---------------------16 -------26 -------19 ------28 --------6 --------1
MORI Mar 2006 ---------------------16 -------33 -------18 ------23 -------4 --------3
MORI Sep 2005 ---------------------14 -------34 -------18 ------24 -------4 --------3
MORI Jun 2005 ----------------------11 -------37 ------23 ------23 -------3 ---------1

SLG

Only 350 participants. Still a great poll though. The last few polls have seen the SNP catch up with Labour, this one sees them move ahead. This is the sort of lead that the SNP are going to need to have next May to have any chance to win.

macnumpty

Scotland on Sunday are also citing an Ipsos-MORI poll (not seen the full details yet) putting Labour on 28% on the Constituency vote versus the SNP's 30%, and Labour on 26% on the Regional Vote, against the SNP's 28%. That's probably more realistic at this stage.

Though the Mail poll is a good morale booster for sure!

October1974

350 is too wee for a sample - a good poll of 1000 or so is more reliable. Never heard of this polling organisation. Are they members of the Polling Council? Could it have been a poll of Sunday Mail and Daily Retard staff?

The Ipsos/Mori poll was in the Sunday Times more than a month ago.

An Dà Shealladh

The Daily Record currently gets £900,000 in advertising revenue from the Scottish Executive. The nearest to that (can't remember which paper) gets £50,000 !

Maybe Salmond had a quiet word and said unless you give us unbiased reporting, you can kiss that money goodbye under an SNP government.

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Apparently (and I cant seem to find an article about it online) around 32% of Lib dem campaigners want the party to ditch labour and support a "rainbow coalition" of SNP, Greens and smaller parties. Whereas 37% want a coalition with just the SNP. and 80% odd of them support the independence referendum - so its all still looking good regarless.

SLG

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Heres the actual article -

"Liberal Democrat leaders are facing a revolt from grassroots members demanding the party pull out of its powersharing coalition with Labour. An uneasy alliance of Labour and Libdem MSPs has run the Scottish executive since devoloution seven years ago. But Lib dem supporters now insist the agreement be ditched in favour of a pact with the Scottish nationalists. The SNP and Labour are currently almost neck and neck in terms of popular support and both are likely to need the suppor of the Lib dems to form a coalition north of the border next year. A poll of Lib dem activists show 37% support a "rainbow" coalition witht he SNP Greens and other small parties at hollyrood, while 32% favour working with the SNP alone. Just 14% back a pact with Labour while 17% say the party should avoid joining a coalition government.

Last night the Lib dem leadership refused to be drawn on the result. A party spokesman said "we believe we can be the single largest party at holyrood next year with Nichol Stephen as first minister. "Momentum is on our side after winning the Dunfermline by-election, good showings in Moray and doing extremely well in local council by-elections in recent months. Therefore, we think there is everything to play for and we wont speculate on hypothetical situations at this stage."

The main stumbling block for the deal between the SNP and the Lib dems has been the nationalist pledge for a referendum on independence if it gained power. But a recent yougov poll found 88% of Lib Dem voters questioned agreed with holding a referendum. The poll of lib dem activists is seen as ood news for the SNP but also a sign to some within labour that it should go it alone as a minority government if it wins next May. Earlier this year First Minister Jack McConnel said labour would have a better chance at next years elections if it was not in a coalition. In May he said "im running a government that im not totally in control of."

and that was from the Mail on Sunday. So SLG looks like even less than 31% back coalition with Labour Very Happy

Surely for a party that bangs of about liberalism to ignore the vast majority of their supporters would be completely stupid.

October1974

Good showing Moray for the Lib Dems? In the 2005 GE they took about 19% of the vote. At the bye-election this year they increased their vote to .... 19%. They alway go back to the previous 2003 election but no-one in the LD seems to look at 2005 which was a good year for them. The spent a small fortune for no increase in support between the General Election and the bye-election, So they have stalled. They also spent a huge amount of time effort and money in the recent Markinch bye-election but came third.

The mud being thrown at them for dishonest campaigning is now sticking. Quite rightly so.

Aventinian

You know, the Nats seem to believe the press is against them; meanwhile Labour and Tory members seem to think the press is full of raving nationalists. What does this suggest...

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"You know, the Nats seem to believe the press is against them; meanwhile Labour and Tory members seem to think the press is full of raving nationalists. What does this suggest..."

Basically what the press have been doing is slating Labour since way back when - of course the Scottish wings had no doubt been told to do the same thing and start edging support towards the new tories - but the "Cameron effect" somewhat stalled at the border and the Lib dems are guilty by association with labour, so the unionist media have found themselves at the race track without a horse to back. So where the press are mostly against independence - I imagine they are giving the SNP alot of coverage in some attempt to scare the other parties into getting their act together.

George

FALSYDE

It would be wise to remember that their is a well tested convention that polls, however conducted, are unstable in their conclusions if less than 1,00o are interviewed so getting carried away on 'ggod' results 6 months in advance could be very dodgy and lead to complacency of turnout. Caw cannae

October1974

Sky news reporting ICM poll (UK wide)in tomorrows Guardian has Labour on new low of 29, Conservatives 39, Liberals 22 Others 10. Still a long way to go but for Labour to poll 29% is not good news for them.

Mctosh45

I think the Libdems, sorry, "Fibdems" should ditch their unionist inclinations & split into two parties one English one Scottish.

If you think about it , it makes perfect sense. They could throw of this tag of saying one north of the border whilst saying the opposite the other. Having split the Scottish party wouldn't be "Hamstrung" into takeng a Unionist stance & thus might stand a chance of surviving as a party with credibility after Scottish independence.

The reverse is true for the English party. Just a thought?

SLG