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magister ludi

thoughts on euro results

Strange old world.

Labour take a hammering, but they are not the ones with the bills for moat cleaning and duck islands.  I've no real sympathy for them, it's just that the tories needed a good kicking too in my opinion.  Conclusion: the expenses scandal at Westminster wasn't really that big a factor in these euro elections.

BNP vote goes down, but they gain 2 seats.

I feel sorry for the Greens.....their share of the vote goes up but it doesn't translate into seats.

Ukip are looking pleased with themselves. I'll need to think about that; is this a protest vote? is this a vote against the EU? Is this a vote against Gordon for not having a referendum?  Or is this a swing to the far right and a vote for "the BNP in blazers"?

Biggest shock of the night:  Wales has gone Tory.  Incredible really, it's kind of like lacrosse taking over from rugby as the national sport.....or singing being outlawed.
Dave Coull

Re: thoughts on euro results

magister ludi wrote:
Labour take a hammering, but they are not the ones with the bills for moat cleaning and duck islands.
Nevertheless, there have been plenty of Labour MPs who have been found to be making hay with their expenses as long as these were hidden in the shadows, and, as Harriet Harman said last night, "our working class voters expect better of us". In other words, it's not quite such a big surprise some Tory MPs having moats and duck islands, but, for some working class folk who still had illusions about the Labour Party, their illusions have been dispelled by the revelation of just how self-serving New Labour had become.

Besides, this wasn't a general election. If the Labour Party should ditch Gordon Brown, and go into a Westminster election under a new leader, acknowledging their sins, displaying open repentance, and promising some fairly sweeping reforms, as looks more possible now, then David Cameron could still have a fight on his hands. I don't think Labour will win, and there might not be a hung parliament, but a Cameron government with quite a narrow majority, facing a Salmond (or Sturgeon) government in Scotland, looks a distinct possibility. If the referendum on independence delivers the go-ahead for negotiations on independence, the negotiators delegated by the Scottish Parliament would be negotiating from a position of strength.
magister ludi

Your "our working class voters expect better of us" is
compelling argument.....which I could accept, except that for example, Jim Devine's constituency party seem happy to continue to back him.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jun/08/mps-expenses-jim-devine
I accept though that the local activists aren't the same as the local party, and that the local party aren't the same as the party voters......or are things that terminal for Labour that these different groups are so out of step?

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