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parkhead_rfb · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: demonstration for gaza

SATURDAY 3 JANUARY:

NATIONAL DEMONSTRATION AND RALLY (LONDON)
Assemble 12:30pm Along Embankment, by Embankment tube station, LONDON WC2 - Nearest tube Embankment or Charing Cross

GLASGOW
Assemble 12 noon Outside Lloyds TSB St Vincent Street then assemble for demo at Blytheswood Square 2pm

EDINBURGH
Assemble 12 noon. Foot of the Mound, Princes Street

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Rinty · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:24 am Post subject:

Lloyds TSB are deliberately blocking humanitarian funds to Palestine. The campaign needs [people to take this up, especially if TSB customers, with the bank.

www.scottishpsc.org.uk

Red Justice · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:37 am Post subject:

Dundee bus to Edinburgh demo

Bus leaves Discovery Point (opposite Rail station) 10.30 a.m. Saturday. Leaves Edinburgh 3 p.m. arrive back in Dundee 4.30 p.m. £10 waged, £6 concession.
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Scotland86 · Gaining a Reputation Joined: 12 Dec 2008 Posts: 249

What is being demonstrated here? if it is the fact that Israel is some how in the wrong and as i have had one person say "commiting international crimes" then you are all nuts. If Wales was to fire rockets into England do you think they would sit and take it? didnt think so, if you play with fire you will get burnt i hope the Israelis batter the living day lights out of them.

Holebender · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject:

You consider it a fair fight? Israel with the entire US's military power at its disposal against a few peasants with Kalashnikovs and stones?
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agentmancuso · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject:

The current action by the Israelis is an absolute disgrace.
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Holebender · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject:

Just their usual behaviour then...
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agentmancuso · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject:

Pretty much, yes.
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agentmancuso · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject:

There's a petition about it here.

I don't know much about the people organising it, except that they had one a couple of years ago protesting about the Israeli invasion of Lebanon.
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Holebender · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject:

I love their idea of blockading the Gazans for a while, then letting in aid, then shooting them up when they come out onto the streets for their rations. It's just so evil you almost have to applaud.
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agentmancuso · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: demonstration for gaza

Scotland86 · Gaining a Reputation Joined: 12 Dec 2008 Posts: 249

Im off my rocker? nah wouldnt say so just dont think the palestinians should be left to fire rockets at civies no matter how big or small they are. As i have said England wouldnt sit and allow Wales to fire rockets into the land and kill there people so why should the Israelis?

Anyway you are all going on about how dreadful it is yet Hama themselves have stated they have no intentions of discussing any ceasefire.

Holebender · Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject:

England/Wales is an interesting analogy as the present inhabitants of Wales are descended from people who used to live in the whole of south Britain, and the present inhabitants of England are descended from people who took over a lot of that land and evicted many of the earlier inhabitants. When the Anglo-Saxons first started expanding into present-day England and even renamed it, were the earlier inhabitants justified in resenting the newcomers and in defending their territory? When the Anglo-Saxons took more and more by force, were the Celts right to resist? When the situation arose where the Anglo-Saxons had a vast military superiority, were they justified in crushing any resistance from the Celts on their ever expanding borders?

Think about it.
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Rinty · Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:00 am Post subject:

This is a slaughter, a siege followed by a massacre.

Scotland86 · Gaining a Reputation Joined: 12 Dec 2008 Posts: 249

Do you not watch sky news? a Hamas leader said that they would not discuss a ceasefire and they have today called for a day of wrath against the israelis after the death of one of there high ranking generals. So how can anyone call for help for Hamas when them themselves are calling for more attacks against israeli towns.

Scotland86 · Gaining a Reputation Joined: 12 Dec 2008 Posts: 249

btw the Hamas leader was himself talking on the news it was not a misquoted report the man himself said this.

Red Justice · Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:43 pm Post subject:

I don't think the Israelis were willing from the start to negotiate a ceasefire.

The facts are:

The conditions for a ceasefire would be different from both Israel and Hamas so agreement was not necessarily likely.

Israel ignores the international community about the bombings and humanitarian aid.

Israel has lied about military targets and have killed around 100 civilians and 400 people bombing homes, mosques and hospitals.

Israel missed killing a member of Hamas but killed four of his family in one bombing raid. The number of children being killed by Israel has increased.

Many rockets fired by Hamas have been way off target but the Israelis continue to bomb civilian areas in Gaza causing slaughter of innocent Palestinians.

This is an act of aggression by Israel and will not be forgotten by many Arabs.

The timing of the Israeli offensive is because of blank cheques being signed by the US lunatic George Bush. This is clearly going to make life difficult for President-elect Obama when he takes office and wants to formulate his own policy on the Middle East.
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Scotland86 · Gaining a Reputation Joined: 12 Dec 2008 Posts: 249

The demands for cease fires always differ on both sides that is why you need to compromise but when both sides refuse to talk about a cease fire point blank there is no point even discussin the matter any further.

Israel has been dropping leaflets from the air telling civilians of there next air sttrike targets so you cannot say they have lied about anything they strike where they see rockets being fired. Hamas fired several rockets from a heavily populated neighbourhoods today so whos fault is it that civvies are being killed? i would say Hamas' as they are the ones firing from schools, mosques and other civilian establishments. Plus using the University as a weapon factory. You ignore the struggle Israel has to keep you do good b******s happy. Hamas DOE NOT want a cease fire neither does Israel so let them fight.

As for ignoring the international the community am i meant to give a flying f***? if it was my country i wouldnt listen either i would run it how i felt was best not how other nations told me to.