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Babygael · Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:14 pm Post subject:

Hai, INDIGINEOUS...Specifies that someone or something is native rather than comming to or being brought in from else where.

NATIVE.....Implies birth or origin in the specified place i.e being a member of the origional inhabitants of a particular place.

Why the Irish girl was there I have no idea. But there she was never-the-less.
Yes Ireland is a different country.As is Scotland and wales and maybe even one day cornwall,who knows?
When I lived in London I felt very indigineous as long as I didnae speak ye ken? But then again I've spent many years living abroad and am used to living with vast cultural differences. I speak Bajan like a native,no difference at all.Yet I am constantly being called a tourist simply because I'm white.

BG smurfin

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Babygael · Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 3:27 am Post subject:

more BNP news....

http://www,firstfoot.com/news/prussianblue.htm colors

if this disnae work,dinnae blame me!!

BG smurfin

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IF Convenor · Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:58 am Post subject:

Ah blame ye for haen a comma instead o a dot aifter yer www there. Kin ye nae copy an paste richt?

http://www.firstfoot.com/News/prussianblue.htm
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Aventinian · Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 11:00 am Post subject:

Wolf of Badenoch · Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 2:20 pm Post subject:

Aye they`re real awricht,their parents hae them brainwashed and refuse tae let them attend school incase they come in contact wi blacks,jews and others that dinnae fit in wi their warped thinking,i mind seeing them oan a documentary a few years ago,the lassies said tae the film maker[away fae their parents earshot] that they wanted tae go tae school and meet other children,the only people they waur aroon were fascists.
Cannae mind the guys name whae done that programme noo,he is a jewish guy an i dae remember wan sinister part when the fascists were trying tae find oot his religion.he looked a very worrit man an neither wonder.
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azzuri · 'Our Scotland' Fossil Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 3793

Louis Theroux - an excellent documentary creator/presenter.

I saw that one too - couldn't actually believe some people in the deep south were like that.
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Blackleaf · Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:12 pm Post subject:

This (overwhemingly Scottish) New Labour Government that we have is the major cause in the surge of support for the BNP.

They are too politically correct (say the word "black" or sell golliwogs in a toy shop and you can be put behind bars) and have made Britain's borders so open that we have no clue as to who is coming into Britain and whether or not they have a criminal record.

It's all this Labout political corectness and not wanting to cause offence to Muslims or Blacks that is causing the rise of the BNP.
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Blackleaf · Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject:

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Babygael · Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:38 am Post subject:

Wal 'SCUSE' ME! IF Convenor! So I put a comma instead of a dot erm is'nt that "full stop?" I can split hairs!!

BG

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Blackleaf · Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:33 am Post subject:

Blackleaf · Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:40 am Post subject:

Millions go to the polls in the English Local Elections today, and the BNP are expected to get a higher than usual amount of votes.

A lot of the English are voting BNP as a protest vote against our Socialist, politically-correct-mustn't-sell-golliwogs-in-shops-in-case-it-offends-blacks, let murderers and rapists from abroad into our country, Scottish dominated, tax increasing, English hating Government.

Foes of Foreigners Grow Vocal In Britain
Anti-Immigrant Party Garnering Support

By Kevin Sullivan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, May 4, 2006; Page A18

Leader of the BNP, Nick Griffin.

LONDON, May 3 -- Paula Mitchell, cutting fresh flowers in the Gale Street Florist shop in east London, said she's voting for candidates of the British National Party in local elections on Thursday -- but she hopes they lose.

"If they got in, I'd be absolutely horrified," said Mitchell, 38, who described her planned ballot for the vehemently anti-immigration BNP as a protest against what she sees as out-of-control immigration to Britain.

"We're against people coming in and taking our jobs, taking our school places, getting priority in housing," said Mitchell. "Everyone is fed up, and we want to make our feelings known."

The BNP declares itself "wholly opposed to any form of racial integration between British and non-European peoples." It seeks to restore the overwhelmingly white makeup of Britain before 1948; its leader has called Islam a "wicked, vicious faith." Support from people like Mitchell, a white mother of three whose political views otherwise appear generally mainstream, illustrates rising anti-immigration sentiment in Britain and across Europe.

Parties long dismissed by many as the racist fringe have become increasingly popular as governments that once freely accepted immigrants question how many more their nations can take.

"It should be a worry for all Western democracies," said Nick Lowles of Searchlight, an anti-racist group that publishes a magazine in Britain. Lowles said many voters were turning to extremist parties to vent anger at their political leaders. "People are shouting out," he said, "and they want to be heard."

In France, a public opinion poll last month showed that more than a third of respondents believed the anti-immigrant National Front, led by the outspoken Jean-Marie Le Pen, was in line with "the concerns of French people." Numbers like that could make the party a power in presidential elections next year.

The anti-immigration Danish People's Party in Denmark and Progress Party in Norway, meanwhile, both reached record levels of the vote -- 13 and 22 percent, respectively -- in elections last year.

A British study this month concluded that up to a fourth of British voters were considering supporting the BNP. Their country now has an estimated 7 million people of various minority groups. "The BNP's message is simple and seductive," Lowles said. "It's always nice to be able to blame someone else for your problems."

The BNP's appeal "stems not so much from crude racism, but from disillusionment with the government," said Vernon Bogdanor, a professor of government at Oxford University. He and other analysts said immigrants are often blamed for tough economic times, and many voters fault the Labor Party government of Prime Minister Tony Blair for not doing enough to control immigration.

Blair's government has been rocked by scandals recently, including the disclosure that more than 1,000 foreigners convicted of crimes including murder and rape had been released from prison instead of being deported, and many are still unaccounted for. On Wednesday, Blair told Parliament that he was drafting a plan to automatically deport foreigners convicted of serious crimes.

Public anger over the scandal deepened Wednesday when the government disclosed that the prime suspect in November's shooting death of a female police officer was a Somali immigrant who had not been deported despite multiple criminal convictions and prison terms in Britain.

"The BNP have become the protest vote for people who don't like the government for any number of reasons," Bogdanor said.

Despite that "combustible" anger, Bogdanor said, mainstream voters still might not back the BNP, which has never won a seat in Parliament and holds only 21 local offices. Opinion polls published last weekend showed the party had only about 4 or 5 percent support nationally, but 30 percent or more in some urban areas.

Jon Cruddas, a Labor Party member of Parliament who represents the working-class east London borough where Mitchell's flower shop is located, said the BNP had made "a conscious strategy to work into areas of white working-class disillusionment," such as his district.

The party is fielding a record 357 candidates out of 4,000 total candidates nationally, including 13 in Cruddas's district of 180,000 people, where unemployment is rampant. The area, which was 85 percent white in the 2001 census, has some of the city's least-expensive housing and has been a magnet for immigrants, with the black African population growing by 3 to 4 percent a year, Cruddas said.

In recent interviews with people on the street and in shops in the neighborhood, nearly every person expressed agreement with the BNP's arguments about immigration, and several said they planned to vote for the party.

"The issue in this city is immigration," said Jackie Odger, who works in Toddy's Unisex Hair Salon. "People don't like it when people come here and claim benefits they're not entitled to."

Odger said she was concerned about the BNP's "racist side," but added that she feels she "might vote for them and not tell anyone."

The neighborhood has drawn attention recently because the government employment minister, Margaret Hodge, a Labor Party member of Parliament who represents the area, said publicly that 80 percent of the voters she met in the borough were considering voting for the BNP.

Richard Barnbrook, a BNP candidate for the local council, was so delighted, he said, that he sent Hodge 10 flowers, including eight white lilies pointedly representing BNP voters.

Barnbrook, 45, a special-needs teacher, ran against Hodge in the most recent election, finishing with about 4,950 votes to her 14,000. He said he's tired of "P.C., wishy-washy subjects" taught in schools -- world history instead of British history, for example. He said he favors chemical castration for pedophiles and serial rapists and wants more government support for the "indigenous peoples" of Britain.

Dressed in a tan suit, Barnbrook walked around the neighborhood, slipping copies of a BNP publication promoting the party as "the voice of the silent majority" through front-door mail slots. Featured on the cover is a photo taken in 1953 on the day of Queen Elizabeth II's coronation, showing a large group of white women and girls attending a party. Below are two more-recent photos of the neighborhood, showing black men and Muslim women in head scarves and veils. Large bold letters ask, "Is this what you really want?"

Barnbrook said the flier simply shows the area's "traditional identity" and how it has changed over the years.

" 'Racist' is the right word to use," said Sunday Ogunyemi, 31, a Nigerian immigrant who has lived in the borough for six years. "Their views do not represent what most British people say. Britain is a country that welcomes people from other countries."

www.washingtonpost.com . . .
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IF Convenor · Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:56 am Post subject:

Oh boo hoo hoo. 300 years of Englishmen ruling Scotland and 9 years the other way round has you inconsolable. It's pathetic.

Now a couple of pieces of information for you. There is no legal block on English people becoming Scottish Health Secretary, or holding any other Scottish Executive position. Any citizen, I believe, can stand for election to the Scottish parliament and any MSP could become a minister if his or her party is in power.

The reason there are so many Scots in the present government is pretty obvious. Throughout the eighties and nineties Scotland kept electing Labour MPs while England largely didn't. These MPs, by virtue of their longevity and lack of competition, naturally became the most senior Labour MPs so, when England finally decided to elect a Labour government, they became the government's ministers.

This method will also ensure that the next Tory government will be almost exclusively staffed by English MPs. Will you think that unfair? Will you sympathise when Scots complain about the injustice of it all? Thought not.
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Wolf of Badenoch · Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 11:02 am Post subject:

Aventinian · Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 11:17 am Post subject:

Wolf of Badenoch · Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 11:22 am Post subject:

Snigger awa! Ye could probably include yersel in the racist part tae efter a couple ae comments ye`ve made.Ye no got ony flags tae be stitching onyways instaed ae sniggering like a wee lassie. Rolling Eyes

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Aventinian · Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 11:49 am Post subject:

Oh yes, me, a racist?

Funny, I seem to recall me being the only one advocating far more liberal border policies, open immigration eventually following European and Commonwealth free movement areas, complete equality in all matters of government...

Wolf of Badenoch · Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 12:21 pm Post subject:

Aventinian i refer ye tae a comment ye made in reply tae a post made by azzuri regarding aids in Africa.

You posted.....

To be fair they didn't really invent that...

In fact, why am I being fair to Ole Blackie? Hell, go ahead...
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Nina · Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject:

Hell yeah Wolf you're right.. I remember that very cleary as well. That was a good for nothing racist remark Exclamation

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azzuri · 'Our Scotland' Fossil Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 3793

I think he was referring to 'Blackleaf' when he said 'Ole' Blackie', not Black people.

Aventinian may be many things, but I can't see he/she as a racist.
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