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azzuri 'Our Scotland' Fossil

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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:17 am Post subject: Independence First March - 30th September 2006... |
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Independence First March - 30th September 2006...
see - http://www.independence1st.com/
SCOTTISH PRO-DEMOCRACY MARCH ANNOUNCED
Welcome to Independence First, the Scottish independence Referendum Campaign. Our main news at the moment is that we are organising our first march on 30th September, 2006 in Edinburgh. Applications have been lodged with the Local Authority and the Constabulary and preparations are well under way. See here for more details.
Independence First demands a Scottish referendum on Independence for the people of Scotland as our democratic right. According to opinion polls independence is the most popular constitutional option for most Scots living in Scotland. You can see messages from our supporters here.
Independence means that Scotland would have the normal powers that almost every other country enjoys. Rather than political policy being decided by the UK Parliament at Westminster, it would be decided here in Scotland by our own Government. Scotland would be an individual member of the United Nations and we would decide our own foreign policy.
We believe that after nearly 300 years of the British union, Scotland's right to direct consultation on its constitutional future, is long overdue. Independence First has no political views whatsoever and our campaign is intended to be wide enough to include every person living in Scotland. (Sympathisers who live outside Scotland can join the campaign as associate members).
Independence First believes that any decisions on staying in or leaving the EU, or whether Scotland should be a monarchy or a republic or any other non-independence issue which might fall within the remit of a referendum, should be subjected to sovereignty of the Scottish people through future post-independence referenda and not included within any independence referendum question.
While the organisation of public demonstrations is a key objective of Independence First, there are several other important initiatives underway and planned.
We are planning to launch a 'Pledge 1 Million Votes for Independence Campaign', see here for details.
We have set up an international media group and are looking to publicise our case in the international press over the next few months.
We have also presented a formal demand for an independence referendum.
If you would like to help with any of these objectives please contact our national secretary at: secretary@independence1st.com.
More information about our campaign is available in our charter and constitution.
Please email media@independence1st.com if you would like to send a personal message of support to the campaign.
To register your support for the campaign simply send an email to membership@independence1st.com To officially join the campaign please send a letter with your contact details and cheque made payable to 'Independence First' for £10 to our membership secretary: Keri Coull, Balnabreich Cottages, Balnabreich, near Brechin, DD9 6RN.
Our campaigning page offers a few ideas as to how you can help the campaign right now. Find Independence 1st contacts in your area here.
Hope you guys don't mind me taking this from the site. 
_________________ "Every single person on this planet is unique. Just like everyone else..." - Random Guy in Edinburgh Pub
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Celtiberian Finding Ma' Way

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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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From Spain, i support you.
Good luck. |
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carol Ready For Afterlife!
Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 2702 Location: nestled in the hills of Perthshire
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your support CB it's appreciated. Now if you fancy a wee holiday at the end of September remember to join us
Regards
Carol |
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Celtiberian Finding Ma' Way

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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks a lot, Carol.
Well, first of all, excuse me for my poor English, please.
I am trying harder, and i will improve it as soon as possible.
I have read a few books about the history of Scotland and i think it is very interesting, sure.
I will go to Edinburgh this October ( time for "Winter" holidays for me ).
I want to visit the Highlands too.
Well, i have a question, please:
All the Scottish people (or most of them) want the independence?
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YOUNG-SNP-SCOT On A Journey (500 Miles)

Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 30 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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You asked carol .. but I'll give my little bit
Recent polls in Scotland suggest that the support for Independence is growing. I think it stands at around 56% in favour - and growing. |
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carol Ready For Afterlife!
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:04 am Post subject: |
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a YouGov report in the spring inidicated 46% support for Scotland becoming independent of the UK, 82 % agreed the best way to settle independence for Scotland was by a referendum
http://www.yougov.co.uk/archives/pdf/TOQ060101001_1.pdf
regards
Carol |
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SLG Born Again..........and still Scottish!

Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 5515 Location: Dłn Eideann
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| Aye, but that 46% includes the don't knows. If you only look at those who expressed an opinion, just over 54% said they favour Independence and just less than 46% were against. So a majority in favour. |
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carol Ready For Afterlife!
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azzuri 'Our Scotland' Fossil

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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Why not wear one of the range of our fabulous 'Our Scotland' T-Shirts on this march if you really want to look the part.
See Here for details.  _________________ "Every single person on this planet is unique. Just like everyone else..." - Random Guy in Edinburgh Pub
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carol Ready For Afterlife!
Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 2702 Location: nestled in the hills of Perthshire
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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We do have our own t-shirts
Have to admit yours are impressive looking.
Hey what about an our-scotland banner at marches
Carol |
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Barny Rubble 3 Strikes - Banned!

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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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<<<Independence means that Scotland would have the normal powers that almost every other country enjoys. Rather than political policy being decided by the UK Parliament at Westminster, it would be decided here in Scotland by our own Government. Scotland would be an individual member of the United Nations and we would decide our own foreign policy. >>>
Except for the UK's benefit system. _________________ By far the best proof is experience |
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IF Convenor I really have nothing else to do!!!

Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 906 Location: Scotland or West Africa, it depends
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Once freed of the dead weight of the rest of the UK, I imagine Scotland will be able to create an efficient and comprehensive benefits system of its own. The biggest problem will be preventing spongers from across the border coming in and looking for a better life. _________________ The man o independent mind,
He looks and laughs at aa that. |
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Barny Rubble 3 Strikes - Banned!

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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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<<<Once freed of the dead weight of the rest of the UK, I imagine Scotland will be able to create an efficient and comprehensive benefits system of its own. The biggest problem will be preventing spongers from across the border coming in and looking for a better life.>>>
If it does then maybe all the Scots who crossed the border will return to Scotland. With a population just over the 5 million with 74,000 claiming benefits in Glasgow alone do you really think an independent Scotland could create a better benefit system? Even the SNP's are saying that 17% of incapacity benefit claimants in Scotland could work. Do you think that Scotland could create a better benefit system than that? No-way come the day the Scots will say no to independence! _________________ By far the best proof is experience |
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IF Convenor I really have nothing else to do!!!

Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 906 Location: Scotland or West Africa, it depends
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Lucky for you, and us, you have no say in the matter. _________________ The man o independent mind,
He looks and laughs at aa that. |
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SLG Born Again..........and still Scottish!

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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Surely the present benefits system is failing when it encourages so many to live off benefits and so many who are able to work continue to claim incapacity benefits. The present system is a failure. That's why come the day, people will vote for Independence. And after that day we will do things better. |
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Barny Rubble 3 Strikes - Banned!

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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| SLG wrote: | | Surely the present benefits system is failing when it encourages so many to live off benefits and so many who are able to work continue to claim incapacity benefits. The present system is a failure. That's why come the day, people will vote for Independence. And after that day we will do things better. |
Of course incapacity benefit is failing simply because it gives the idle a better living. When the day comes the only way you can get the idle off benefits is cut the benefits. _________________ By far the best proof is experience |
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Barny Rubble 3 Strikes - Banned!

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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| IF Convenor wrote: | | Lucky for you, and us, you have no say in the matter. |
Maybe if I had a say Scotland would gain independence because the English want rid of Scotland, Scotland's become to much of a burden on the English taxpayer. _________________ By far the best proof is experience |
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azzuri 'Our Scotland' Fossil

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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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apart from the oil and gas obviously - which is best left unmentioned if you're the chancellor of the exchequer.  _________________ "Every single person on this planet is unique. Just like everyone else..." - Random Guy in Edinburgh Pub
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IF Convenor I really have nothing else to do!!!

Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 906 Location: Scotland or West Africa, it depends
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Aye, such a terrible burden.
There's the oil and gas.
Can anybody tell me which manufactured product is the UK's biggest export revenue earner? I'll give you a clue, it's made in Scotland. Just another part of the terrible burden the long-suffering English have had to bear... looking after all our money for us must be so draining. They deserve a rest. _________________ The man o independent mind,
He looks and laughs at aa that. |
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SLG Born Again..........and still Scottish!

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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Barny Rubble wrote: | | Maybe if I had a say Scotland would gain independence because the English want rid of Scotland. |
You do have a say. Are you camaigning for English independence? Write to your local MP. Join the English Democrats party. Join the campaign for an English Parliament. There's lots you can do. |
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