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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The thing is the stone is a symbol. If the 'fake'one allows us to gain a bit of publicity for independance then i think it is just as good as the original (which by the way is in my downstairs cupboard) Smile


Is that the original that never left Scotland, or the original they didn't return after it was recovered from Westminster Abbey?



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is no one knows. It depends who you talk to. More than likely the switch would have happened after it had been taken from Westminster Abbey in the 50's.

As i say the main thing i feel now is to use it as a focal point for independence because if we get it i would prefer a republic to a monarchy anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Before the Empire changes

a very wonderful event will take place.

The field moved, the pillar of porphyry

put in place, changed on the gnarled rock.


~ From Nostradamus, C.1 Q43.

Basically, the end of the British empire will finally arrive with Scottish independence, as Scotland is effectively the last colony. It will be the 'miraculous' re-discovery of the real Stone of Destiny which instigates or consumates the process, and the stone itself will replace the fake stone at Edinburgh Castle (on the gnarled castle rock) as Scotland's true emblem of national sovereignty and identity.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh well, if Nostradamus says so it must be true. Right?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Except that it could refer to any number of empires, and any number of rocks, perhaps except that of the stone of destiny which is seemingly a piece of sandstone making it sedimentary rather than igneous and it's also (I believe) free of large crystals which would emphatically rule it out of the group of rocks described as being porphyry ...

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alasdair wrote:
the stone of destiny is seemingly a piece of sandstone making it sedimentary rather than igneous and it's also (I believe) free of large crystals which would emphatically rule it out of the group of rocks described as being porphyry ...



Eh, no. You've obviously fallen for the faux history of the Stone.

True, the stone lodging at Edinburgh Castle is sandstone, but the ancient account of the Stone of Destiny is that it is one of either black bassalt, white marble or porphyry.

The sandstone lump in Edinburgh is local Scone stone, and therefore can not be the historical coronation stone of our monarchs.

Fancy that, the Queens and Kings of England have been crowned on a bog cover, how quaint of them.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, what can I say ... pah!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You gotta love those Nostradamus freaks.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pytheas wrote:
Alasdair wrote:
the stone of destiny is seemingly a piece of sandstone making it sedimentary rather than igneous and it's also (I believe) free of large crystals which would emphatically rule it out of the group of rocks described as being porphyry ...



Eh, no. You've obviously fallen for the faux history of the Stone.

True, the stone lodging at Edinburgh Castle is sandstone, but the ancient account of the Stone of Destiny is that it is one of either black bassalt, white marble or porphyry.

The sandstone lump in Edinburgh is local Scone stone, and therefore can not be the historical coronation stone of our monarchs.

Fancy that, the Queens and Kings of England have been crowned on a bog cover, how quaint of them.



One look at that piece of brown craggy nonsense is enough to tell you The Bruce never would have sat on it to be crowned King of Scots.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many a prophecy by Nostradamus has come true.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was at Scone Palace the other day, and was talking to some of the staff who informed me that Historic Scotland were performing a dig in the foundations of the palace itself as they had a hunch that the 'real' stone of destiny may be buried in the grounds somewhere. They are going to be performing this dig over the next couple of weeks.

Interesting times...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, that makes a lot of sense.  A heavy stone like that would be easy to conceal in the grounds and easy to forget about.

It still doesn't explain why The Bruce wouldn't have had it exhumed and readied for his son to be crowned one day.

The Bruce was a busy man and in rather ill health towards the end of his life and it's possible he never thought it safe to exhume the stone.

Have you read the Bruce trilogy?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

azzuri wrote:
I was at Scone Palace the other day, and was talking to some of the staff who informed me that Historic Scotland were performing a dig in the foundations of the palace itself as they had a hunch that the 'real' stone of destiny may be buried in the grounds somewhere. They are going to be performing this dig over the next couple of weeks.

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There's a lot of evidence the stone was a meteorite. If so, then expect them to find nothing more than a rusty stain on the ground. I've worked with meteorites, and the things are notorious for rusting to nothing if they're not looked after.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed. More likely it's a piece of granite from Aberdeenshire and not just sandstone from Scone itself like the stone in Edinburgh Castle.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a job for Indiana Jones.



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