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SLG
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 Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:24 pm Post subject: Alba on Scotland shirts |
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There is a camaign to have Alba included along with Scotland on the Scotland Football strips. This campaign has been going on for some time and the SFA has always refused on the basis that if they included the Gaelic for Scotland, they would also have to include the Urdu, Polish, Mandarin etc. It looks like they may be warming to the idea though. Please sign the petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/alba777/.
| Quote: | GAELIC MAY YET APPEAR ON SFA STRIPS
Aberdeen Press & Journal
05 November 2005
The Scottish Football Association could be backing down in its
refusal to have anything to do with Gaelic on the national strip in the run-up to the Year of Highland Culture 2007.
Approaches made by Highland councillors to have the word Alba on the strip were dismissed several weeks ago.
Now education, culture and sport chairman Andy Anderson has had indications there is the possibility of a breakthrough.
He said: "I understand that part of the problem was that
sponsorship deals have been agreed and that strips cannot be changed while they are still operational. But I also understand that some of the current sponsorship deals are coming to an end before the year 2007, and that could let us in to speak to the current sponsors, if they are
going to continue their sponsorship. Alternatively, if a new
sponsorship deal is to be negotiated we could speak to the new sponsors. "It sounds as if the SFA may be growing more open to our ideas, although we seem to have caught them on the hop with our shirt proposal. But going by the amount of support we are getting for the proposal, from the Tartan Army especially, I think the SFA might even see things our way, and give in."
Progress has been made in promoting Gaelic with the SFA at other levels. Fiona Hampton, director of Highland 2007, said the SFA has approached them to try to incorporate Gaelic into coaching courses and to promote Gaelic through football. |
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Maol.Chaluim
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Looks promising...
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Here's hoping .........
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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whit aboooot pooting 'scolin' on the shirts for the people of ayr. or jocks to keep the english happy.
silly idea. will never happen.
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SLG
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| trueblue wrote: | | whit aboooot pooting 'scolin' on the shirts for the people of ayr. or jocks to keep the english happy. |
'Scotland' in Scots is still spelt Scotland. But if you feel really strongly about it, why don't you suggest to the SFA that they use 'scolin' and 'jocks' as well.
| trueblue wrote: | | silly idea. will never happen. |
Are you David Taylor? Or has he told you that it will never happen? It seems to fly in the face of the above article that I posted. |
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it is not going to happen. the principle language should be used in these situations. my god how many spellings of the usa would you have on thier shirts. or australia. it would also start a PC ball rolling. we want scotland spelt in hindu/chinese amongst others. i have nothing against gaels or the language but it is a non-starter.
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Abieuan
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The campaign is not to have alternative spellings on the badges, but the name of our country in our indigenous language.
The Welsh have Wales and Cymru, and nearly 80% of them are English speaking.
I belive it will happen someday. |
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nah!
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azzuri
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To be honest I think it would be a nice touch - but the difference between the welsh language and ours is that almost 20% of their population speak it, whereas roughly only 2% of ours speak or understand gaelic.
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| rs_azzuri wrote: | | To be honest I think it would be a nice touch - but the difference between the welsh language and ours is that almost 20% of their population speak it, whereas roughly only 2% of ours speak or understand gaelic. |
exactly.
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BUT -
I am still all for it. Would add something unique to the Scotland shirt
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Abieuan
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I don't think it matters that few people can speak Gàidhlig, there are hundreds of thousands who wish they could but don't bother to learn or are unable to do so.
I see loads of Alba stickers on cars every day but i bet only 1% of the occupants speak Gàidhlig.
What i am saying is that a large proportion of the population are proud of the Gaelic language whether they speak it or not. |
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SLG
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| Abieuan wrote: | I don't think it matters that few people can speak Gàidhlig, there are hundreds of thousands who wish they could but don't bother to learn or are unable to do so.
I see loads of Alba stickers on cars every day but i bet only 1% of the occupants speak Gàidhlig.
What i am saying is that a large proportion of the population are proud of the Gaelic language whether they speak it or not. |
Exactly. Only 2% may be able to speak it, but I bet almost everyone knows what Alba means. Just like the non-Welsh speakers know what Cymru means.
It is typical of the Anglo-centric British attitude that trueblue should use any excuse possible to deny one of the most distinct atributes of Scottish culture. |
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'most distinct' eh naw-2% distinct.
i know that cerveza means beer in spanish, so does just about everyone else................................and.
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SLG
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| trueblue wrote: | | 'most distinct' eh naw-2% distinct. |
Try place names across the entire country. Try dozens of Scots and English words that are based on Gaelic. Try 1500 years of history. Try cultural genocide since the '45. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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i'm sorry but it is just not that relevant unless you speak it.
cultural genocide-i like that. i'm onnae use that sometime.
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| trueblue wrote: | | i'm sorry but it is just not that relevant unless you speak it. |
Well plenty of folk disagree. You would do well to remember that what is your opinion is just that. You don't speak on behalf of the SFA nor do you speak on behalf of the Scottish people. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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and neither do you nor the 2% who speak the gaelic.
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SLG
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| trueblue wrote: | | and neither do you nor the 2% who speak the gaelic. |
Well done. That's right. So let's listen to the good man from the SFA (see the article I posted above???) As for my own voice, I have let the SFA know my opinion and signed the petition. You are free to express your opinion likewise. What I object to is you making out that your opinion is reflective of the majority. |
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Abieuan
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SLG wrote:
| Quote: | | Try place names across the entire country. |
Not just place names, personal names too, first names and surnames - last time i looked in the Glasgow South phone book it was stuffed with Gaelic origin names.
Gàidhlig has relevance to people who don't speak it. |
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