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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killie let him go to early or just found his level?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I saw of him, he's found his level.

Who knows though, he was with Birmingham City until 2 years ago so they must've seen something in him.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On yourself Azzuri Very Happy

I grew up in a Scots-catholtic household, my brothers a season ticket holder at Parkhead and my mum's into the hoops as well but I fell in with my dad who grew up half a stones throw from Maryhill and even though I grew up outside Dundee - I went to Dundee United & Dundee games but never felt any passion until the Jaggy Thistle came up or was down at my grans,
In england I quite like Fulham but wouldn't say I'm a fan

The attitude Parkie has towards Azzuri following Killie is shocking, not everyone from 100miles or so outside Glasgow wants to follow either one of the bigoted brothers and since your champion of all things Irish - I thought you might support the real "Irish" side in Scotland - Hibernian FC. Celtic stole their hoops, players and designated a catholic only policy.

Saying that I quite like Celtic to do well in Europe and I'd prefer them to win the SPL over the manky mob at Castle Greyskull.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kevin04 wrote:
On yourself Azzuri Very Happy

I grew up in a Scots-catholtic household, my brothers a season ticket holder at Parkhead and my mum's into the hoops as well but I fell in with my dad who grew up half a stones throw from Maryhill and even though I grew up outside Dundee - I went to Dundee United & Dundee games but never felt any passion until the Jaggy Thistle came up or was down at my grans,
In england I quite like Fulham but wouldn't say I'm a fan

The attitude Parkie has towards Azzuri following Killie is shocking, not everyone from 100miles or so outside Glasgow wants to follow either one of the bigoted brothers and since your champion of all things Irish - I thought you might support the real "Irish" side in Scotland - Hibernian FC. Celtic stole their hoops, players and designated a catholic only policy.

Saying that I quite like Celtic to do well in Europe and I'd prefer them to win the SPL over the manky mob at Castle Greyskull.


celtic have never had a catholics only policy so am afraid your full of pish my friend.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your quite right but you stole the hoops from hibs though. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kevin04 wrote:
Your quite right but you stole the hoops from hibs though. Laughing


wouldnt be so sure on that one ad need to check.

we did steal half there team though.

get it right up them!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have been lurking here for ages but i happened upon this yesterday, quite interesting and adds to the debate i hope. i'm sure it was not until the late 90's that celtic had a non-catholic on the board as well.

http://kerrydalestreet.com/page/The+first+circular.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and by the way i'm a hibs fan, from the armchair i must add.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sgmillerton wrote:
i have been lurking here for ages but i happened upon this yesterday, quite interesting and adds to the debate i hope. i'm sure it was not until the late 90's that celtic had a non-catholic on the board as well.

http://kerrydalestreet.com/page/The+first+circular.


it wasnt until the late 90's that celtic had anyone bar a few from certain families on the board. that was the problem in general.

nice tenous link at sectarianism though.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

parkhead_rfb wrote:
sgmillerton wrote:
i have been lurking here for ages but i happened upon this yesterday, quite interesting and adds to the debate i hope. i'm sure it was not until the late 90's that celtic had a non-catholic on the board as well.

http://kerrydalestreet.com/page/The+first+circular.


it wasnt until the late 90's that celtic had anyone bar a few from certain families on the board. that was the problem in general.

nice tenous link at sectarianism though.



thanks for confirming for me what i'd heard about only catholics being on the board at celtic until the late 90's. i'm sure thats why jock stein was not given a place on the board at celtic in the 70's but offered the job of running celtic pools instead.

tenuous link with secterianism?? taken from a celtic messageboard!! certainly an interesting way of looking at!!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sgmillerton wrote:
parkhead_rfb wrote:
sgmillerton wrote:
i have been lurking here for ages but i happened upon this yesterday, quite interesting and adds to the debate i hope. i'm sure it was not until the late 90's that celtic had a non-catholic on the board as well.

http://kerrydalestreet.com/page/The+first+circular.


it wasnt until the late 90's that celtic had anyone bar a few from certain families on the board. that was the problem in general.

nice tenous link at sectarianism though.



thanks for confirming for me what i'd heard about only catholics being on the board at celtic until the late 90's. i'm sure thats why jock stein was not given a place on the board at celtic in the 70's but offered the job of running celtic pools instead.

tenuous link with secterianism?? taken from a celtic messageboard!! certainly an interesting way of looking at!!


but it wasnt an anti catholic policy. it was an anti anyone else being on the board as the whites and kelly's wanted to keep the power to themselves. they were also scared their mismanagement (which was gross mismanagement to say the least) would come to light.

it had nothing to do with religion and everything to do with nepitism.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Hibs team of 1876
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

parkhead_rfb wrote:
sgmillerton wrote:
parkhead_rfb wrote:
sgmillerton wrote:
i have been lurking here for ages but i happened upon this yesterday, quite interesting and adds to the debate i hope. i'm sure it was not until the late 90's that celtic had a non-catholic on the board as well.

http://kerrydalestreet.com/page/The+first+circular.


it wasnt until the late 90's that celtic had anyone bar a few from certain families on the board. that was the problem in general.

nice tenous link at sectarianism though.



thanks for confirming for me what i'd heard about only catholics being on the board at celtic until the late 90's. i'm sure thats why jock stein was not given a place on the board at celtic in the 70's but offered the job of running celtic pools instead.

tenuous link with secterianism?? taken from a celtic messageboard!! certainly an interesting way of looking at!!


but it wasnt an anti catholic policy. it was an anti anyone else being on the board as the whites and kelly's wanted to keep the power to themselves. they were also scared their mismanagement (which was gross mismanagement to say the least) would come to light.

it had nothing to do with religion and everything to do with nepitism.


so if a football club is totally dominated by one religion, for decades and decades it is called nepitism. i'm sure the bigots at ibrox and parkhead will be happy with that new explanation.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shall I be the first to say it?

Whoever England's playing!!!!!

Although that's not just in football Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sgmillerton wrote:
parkhead_rfb wrote:
sgmillerton wrote:
parkhead_rfb wrote:
sgmillerton wrote:
i have been lurking here for ages but i happened upon this yesterday, quite interesting and adds to the debate i hope. i'm sure it was not until the late 90's that celtic had a non-catholic on the board as well.

http://kerrydalestreet.com/page/The+first+circular.


it wasnt until the late 90's that celtic had anyone bar a few from certain families on the board. that was the problem in general.

nice tenous link at sectarianism though.



thanks for confirming for me what i'd heard about only catholics being on the board at celtic until the late 90's. i'm sure thats why jock stein was not given a place on the board at celtic in the 70's but offered the job of running celtic pools instead.

tenuous link with secterianism?? taken from a celtic messageboard!! certainly an interesting way of looking at!!


but it wasnt an anti catholic policy. it was an anti anyone else being on the board as the whites and kelly's wanted to keep the power to themselves. they were also scared their mismanagement (which was gross mismanagement to say the least) would come to light.

it had nothing to do with religion and everything to do with nepitism.


so if a football club is totally dominated by one religion, for decades and decades it is called nepitism. i'm sure the bigots at ibrox and parkhead will be happy with that new explanation.


so if the board just didnt like protestants.....why did they make stein manager in the first place?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so, the catholic board at celtic were not secterian cos they employed jock stein, fair enough, you seem like a broadminded chap and i'm sure you will have the same view of rangers who have had catholics in their employment since their inception.

old firm bigots, so stupid and blinkered and so easy to defeat thier twisted logic.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"so if a football club is totally dominated by one religion, for decades and decades it is called nepitism."

But Celtic were not dominated by one religion as you suggest. The board was populated by two families in Ireland, the Grants and Colgans and two in Glasgow Whites and Colgans, with the Glasgow families having direct links to the Irish families.

Stein wasnt appointed to the board, but neither was McNeill or anyone else. As Parkie says, the families were reluctant to let anyone else in. Those families happened to be catholic, provbably stemming from Celtics roots in the Irish catholic communitiers in the east end.

Manchester United were formed from a similiar community and didnt have a non-catholic manager until Dave Sexton. Does that mean they were anti-protestant or does it just mean that they had many catholic ex players who made good managers, stemming from their history and that appeal to irish catholic players.

Celtics first game had five or possibly six protestants in the team.

BTW I support Celtic, Cumnock Juniors, Crystal Palace, Liverpool, Queen of the South, in that order.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is the same twisted logic that allows rangers and celtic fans to justify what they are, gnarled, pompous and narrow minded bigots.

one celtic fan says it is nepetism another agrees and justifies the bigotry. how long before a fucked up rangers fan comes on and says the same thing about his team.

the old firm, scotlands not so secret shame.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sgmillerton wrote:
that is the same twisted logic that allows rangers and celtic fans to justify what they are, gnarled, pompous and narrow minded bigots.

one celtic fan says it is nepetism another agrees and justifies the bigotry. how long before a fucked up rangers fan comes on and says the same thing about his team.

the old firm, scotlands not so secret shame.


Every due respect sgmillerton, but as I've been arguing with Parkie about the same thing, not every Celtic or Rangers fan are as you described them.

And from what I've read on here, it doesn't seem people where kept out of the Celtic board for their religion they where kept out for not having the right DNA (i.e. family), so you Nepotism it certainly was. The fact they all happen to be Catholics is just a coincidence.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I support Killie and have done since the early 80's.

Obviously though, I'm a dirty orange b****rd that can't afford the bus/train fare to Ibrox (according the nice inclusive non threatening Celtic fans)

Judging somebody on the football team they decide to follow is something school kids do.

Anyway, I though most tims were green on the outside and red, white and blue unionists on the inside?
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