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sgmillerton · Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject:

aye, hampden, cardiff, newcastle,weymouth,manchester are all hosting an event. i've no desire to go to london but i will endeavor to get to an event in newcastle or glasgow, be cool to have been to an olympic event.

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Rinty · Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject:

So it is still just the event that was announced and not "events" as you said?

London probably couldnt provide the amount of venues needed and this doesnt add up to much of a GB approach, just throwing some crums north of watford or even assistance from the regions to make up the stadia requirements to host the tournament.

Are you sure that London was awarded the games as a "Gb event"? Since your post I googled it and cant see where you get this idea from and dont see any decision from The Olympic committee that changes the city approach to a country approach.

sgmillerton · Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject:

SLG · Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject:

sgmillerton · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:32 am Post subject:

i feel very positive about the olympics overll, a prestigious event which will bring massive amounts of tourists to scotland b4 and after the event. if we market it properly.
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Rinty · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:26 pm Post subject:

"no, there are events being held all around GB. technically london is the host but events are being held all over the GB, that is a good thing. other parts of GB have the privelage of hosting events for the olympics and we are getting all negative about it. i would hate to see the gumbumping if everything was based in london."

I know there are events to an extent all over the UK. What you said was that London was awarded the olympics as part of "gb events". Did you make that bit up?

It looks to me like it is still the same arrangement and that this is a London event. The govt can justify some spending of the national budget by putting asonm events elsewhere and, of course, it saves on costs to use existing facilities so the regions are assisting London in delivering the games.

I can see no evidence that staging the Olympics have ever done any good for facilities and sports in any country.

I'm not mumping or moaning about it, its just that I know that paying for the olympics will partly come from much needed facilities at grass roots level. So while there may be some short term tourist bucks, that will only be part compensation for the swimming pools or astroturf pitches that dont get funded as a result.

Scotland gets one football match at Hampden with no new facilities.

sgmillerton · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject:

but there are gb events as you now know. so london and parts of gb are hosting events. i don't mind paying a little extra to make the olympics go ahead.
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Rinty · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject:

"i don't mind paying a little extra to make the olympics go ahead."

but some of the "Little extra" will come directly from funds that would otherwise support community sports facilities rather than large venues in London that will be used by the elite.

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sgmillerton · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:50 am Post subject:

Blackleaf · Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject:

If we don't have a united British team for the Olympics then how can we compete for medals in the football tournament? With all other Olympics up until now, other countries across the world compete for medals every four years in the football tournament in the Olympics, whereas the English, Scots, Welsh and Nothern Irish are always left out, watching from the sidelines.

In 2012 we must join in, and the Scots must be more outward-looking and support the English, Welsh and Northern Irish in creating a British football team.

Blackleaf · Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject:

sgmillerton · Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:03 pm Post subject:

shooting in fife, rowing at strathclyde park and i'm sure the diving is being done at the commonweath pool in embra.
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Rinty · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:41 am Post subject:

"In 2012 we must join in, and the Scots must be more outward-looking and support the English, Welsh and Northern Irish in creating a British football team."

In other sports, such as curling, teams compete for the right to represent their country. They dont pick the best curling players into a national team. I remember my grandfather reaching a final, in Aberdeen, for his rink to be the Scottish representatives in bowling for a commonwalth games in the 70's, they lost but it was his team that played for the right, not individuals being selected.

Likwewise outside of team sports. The Olympic athletics team, have to qualify, they are not selected on reputation.

I think we should have a tournament in the year leading up to the olympics, showcasing the stadiums and leading to one of the british nations representing britain. This would be more in keeping with how other sports people get to the olympics and it would be a great tournament and a good PR execrise in the build up to the games.

This is a one-off and we cant compete as britain in other years, we are in this tournament as hosts, if we want to. But in any other year teams qualify for the olympics through the UEFA U-21 tournament the year before. As riatin are not members of UEFA we dont take part other than as Scotland England Northern Ireland and Wales.

This happened at the last tournament. Engalnd reached the semi-finals which would have given them qualification for the olympics but ceded the place to Italy.

We should remember that up until the 60's Britain DID have an olympic team. The tournament was for amatuers and that distinction made it easier to separate from the four nations playing the professional game. The former Celtic keeper Ronnie Simpson played in the olympics in the 50's.

In 1984 the OIC changed the rules to allow professional players and the tournament became, and still is now, an under-23 professional tournament.

"I'd love to see how many events in the 2014 Commonwealth Games are held outside if Glasgow or, indeed, outside of Scotland."

Not that many, that's my point! These games are awarded to cities, not nations. There are no doubt some spin-off benefits for some other parts of the country but it is essentially the London Olympics and the Glasgow Commonwealth games, not the British Olympics and the Scottish Commonwealth games.

As far as football goes, since the professionals have been allowed in it means that more big stadiums are needed so every city that has hosted the olympics has needed to draft in help from other cities for this sport. This bid is no different and they are not sharing the benefits as much as seeking support because they need more top class stadiums with travel and parking infrastructure and dont want to build them for a one-off event.

Cymro · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject:

RadgeJougal · Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:56 pm Post subject:

I hope not, it would be bad for both our countries.

Tartan Tam · Finding Ma' Way Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 3

Cymro is right, the SFA, IFA and FAW are all against a Team GB as are ALL the fans from all the home nations (the FSF had a vote and it was 60% against) all the other fans groups were unanimous.

This is not out of spite or to somehow p1ss off our southern big cousins, there is a real threat against our football independence and has been for the last 20 years.
There is a special dispensation within the FIFA constitution which allows Scotland, England, Northern Ireland and Wales to compete in world football and to compete in the current climate as a Team GB would play right into the hands of those who think these 4 nations have too much power.

Preserve our independence........www.NoTeamGB.com

Cheers,
Tam