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RadgeJougal · Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: PLA orchestrated Tibet riots

Beijing orchestrating Tibet riots

Just in case you wondered why these "Tibetan monks" were so violent in Lhasa....

Blackadder · Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:19 pm Post subject:

Interesting pic. Where did you find it? I'm posting copies to everyone I know by the way! Dissemination is the best way to use information.

RadgeJougal · Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject:

Off a Buddhist site -
http://buddhism.kalachakranet.org/

The only other interpretations of this picture are -

1) The monks are dressing up as soldiers (as if)
2) The soldiers stole the robes as souvenirs. Unlikely but possible.

Blackadder · Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject:

I note someone called Boy Wonder has posted this page as a link to the picture on The Scotsman.

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/l...rs-feel-the-strong-arm.3929055.jp

Is Boy Wonder a member of Our Scotland?

J'accuse ... Mairead!!! Laughing

RadgeJougal · Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject:

Wasn't me. Embarassed

But glad to see it is being linked.

Neil · Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:13 am Post subject:

OR
3) This photo is not taken from Tibet or anywhere close & it relates to something like an equivalent of the Edinburgh Tatoo.

The fact that the picture is unsourced, that the western media have been shown to have been faking pictures (film shown of alleged Chinese troops wearing Nepalese badges & the picture cropped to show a lone protestor by removing the brick throwing mob behind him), & most of all that this is being done in public with unconcerned citizens walking/rickshawing by would all tend to support such a conclusion.
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Blackadder · Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:07 am Post subject:

Are saying the picture is a fake and there's nothing of any consequence happening in Tibet, which is a natural part of China?

Neil · Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:38 am Post subject:

Almost certainly , at least in the context it is being used (I note you don't dispute the improbability I mentioned merely jumped to accusing me of heresy) & it depends what you consider significant. Have you blogged a thousand times more about the 1,000 times worse genocide carried out by NATO & their openly genocidal Nazi employees in Kosovo & Krajina? Have you noticed our allegedly honest media reporting it 1,000 times more?

If not why not?
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RadgeJougal · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject:

Neil, Tibet NEEDS to be reported. Kosovo has received far more press over the years. Tibet only rarely gets mentioned and it's been going on for decades.

Blackadder · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject:

Spot on, RadgeGit! Very Happy

Neil · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:51 am Post subject:

Then perhps you could report a single ocasion when the Dragodan Massacre i Kosovo (210 unarmed civilians murdered by NATO "police" a few hundred yards from the British HQ) has been reported in our media. At the very least this single incident is worse than all the alleged killings (at least of Tibetans) in Tibet & indeed comparable with My Lai & Lidice.

On a purely numerical basis our genocide in Kosovo should be at least 100 times more rported than anything in Tibet, but since it is our responsibility & Tibet isn't it should be more than that.

I suggest that the truth in Kosovo has in fact received about 1,000 times less coverage which, in turn, proves that what we are getting is not news but racist propaganda. However I would be willing to be persuaded if you could produce evidence of proportionate coverage of our Dragodan genocide.
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Blackadder · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject:

Should this not be in the GLOBAL POLITICS section of the forum??

Maybe admin could shift it there! Hmm?

mashimaro · Finding Ma' Way Joined: 04 Apr 2008 Posts: 10

The picture is not a fake...but

It doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

1) The uniform is about five years out of date.
2) It's the five year out of date SUMMER DRESS uniform, all Tibetan security forces (police and army) are in WINTER BATTLE DRESS uniform in Tibet right now. (Obviously you guys know nothing of the temperatures of the area).
3) In your wildest dreams do you imaginge that if any security force was going to perpetrate what you suggest, they would be walking around the streets calmly holding the evidence? What kind of absolute fools do you think we are?
4) If this was part of the violence as you are saying - and given that the monks had been protesting for a few days before the violence broke out - do you really suppose that the locals in the background would be so calm?
More lies from the Duh Lie Llama.

Fact is the Tibetans were violent during this protest.
Fact is your western media LIED to you.
Fact is there was no immediate crackdown by police or army. The police contained the rioters as best they could. The military only got there days afterwards and in the meantime your press was handing you lies. There was no "crackdown" until much later when police searched for the criminals that killed five girls when burning down their shop, stabbing people with knives, burning buisnesses, beating people in the streets.

see police uniforms here: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/imag.../03/16/world/16tibet-span-600.jpg
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azzuri · 'Our Scotland' Fossil Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 3757

Interesting photo nonetheless. Someone isn't being told the truth, and it's going to be interesting to see how this one pans out...
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Blackadder · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:27 am Post subject:

I REPEAT ... this should be in the GLOBAL POLITICS section of the forum ...

What's the point in having that thread if you're not going to use it for its intended purpose?

General Banter is not necessarily for the broad brush of politics.

And this particular line IS geopolitical.

mashimaro · Finding Ma' Way Joined: 04 Apr 2008 Posts: 10

Stick it where you like but it's a lie.
This was taken when the PLA was taking part in a performance and borrowed the robes as costumes.
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azzuri · 'Our Scotland' Fossil Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 3757

...and the deed is done.

Would you have ever found the thread if it were in the 'Global Politics' section in the first place Blackadder? Wink

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Neil · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:34 am Post subject:

I trust, in light of the fact that our political leaders have been guilty of kinapping innocent teenagers & selling their body parts absolutely nobody will ever, under any circumstances whatsoever, suggest that any of our govening politicians or the obscene racist cannabil journalists who lie & censor on their behalf will ever claim anything remotely close to being moral equals to the Chinese leadership (or even Robert Mugabe).

http://ourscotland.myfreeforum.org/sutra60522.php#60522
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Blackadder · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject:

Azzuri ...

Probably not.

Why? Is that a problem for you?

Let's just say I've done my share of protests, marches, flag-waving, shouting the odds and campaigning ... and my back demands a rest. Unfortunately, I'm not 25 any more.

Then you get the nutters with their strange ability to see wicked plots in even the most innocuous of places. Conspiracy nuts make my teeth wince. Had my fill of them too.

So, thanks for shifting the thread ... and if anyone (RadgeGit & Neil) really wants to make a point he (or she thinks) we should all take note of ... then by all means, why not go into General Banter "How ManyPages" thread and alert us there, where we can make a choice to look or not ... rather than having it forcibly dumped on us!

Just my thoughts ... but it's better than being ignored, innit? Rolling Eyes

Neil · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject: