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Holebender · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:56 am Post subject:

Don't be flattered, I'm just a pedant and the author is irrelevant.

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RFM · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject:

We probably agree that violence against the citizens of one's own country, for whatever reason, internal unrest, political dissent, food shortages, election results, is often the only means to protect the majority of citizens from a minority bent on disrupting and destabilizing the government. As Phillip Agee wrote in his infamous books about the CIA, fomenting unrest by the use of paid and unwitting agents is a favorite tactic of other governments to interfere in the internal policies of an unfriendly nation.

AT base however these movements are always driven by business and profits, witness Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Palestine, China, Tibet, Viet Nam, Cuba, etc. While many people are willing to buy into the notion that encouraging business enterprise is the route to national prosperity, and there is certainly abundant evidence that is true, the ethical question becomes at what price and over whose spilled blood? It is certainly common knowledge in any economics textbook you care to pick up that wars always result in immense prosperity for certain groups within a nation. Providing they are able to win or at least stave off defeat and occupation. In order to convince citizens to give up their children's lives and accept additional tax burdens to pay for war, a propaganda campaign is always required to cast the matter in ideological and moral terms.