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SLG · Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject:

Haha, I don't for a minute suggest that there is nothing in what you say. My point is that you look at things too black and white. In the same way as scotsdream does. Although I doubt you genuinely do think like this, I think you just take that line to make a point on this forum.

agentmancuso · Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject:

Well spotted. Cool

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SLG · Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:44 pm Post subject:

agentmancuso · Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject:

Not really. I enjoy exposing the non-sequitors and prejudices inherent in Nationalism. The point stands.
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SLG · Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject:

agentmancuso · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:58 am Post subject:

I am not operating from a prejudiced standpoint. I like to debate politics with people with whom I disagree. Where they show signs of any grasp of nuance or subtlety, and are capable of arguing their point in a rational manner, I will respond likewise.
If, on the other hand, they show signs of living in a cartoon, black & white world of goodies and baddies, where every attempt to question the fundamentally illogical and emotive nature of nationalism provokes accusations of being a 'traitor', 'English', 'privately-educated' or 'anglicised' I will poke fun at them, because they deserve no less.
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SLG · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject:

agentmancuso · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject:

SLG · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject:

agentmancuso · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject:

I'll bear that in mind Wink

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louismcleod · Finding Ma' Way Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 2

Congradulations and best of luck to the SNP. Fighting for independence when you're already part of a rich and modern country is not an easy thing, especially in today's individualistic, politically-bored world. Most people today have totally forgotten or don't care about their ancestors' struggles, as long as their daily little comforts aren't threatened. This is a shame, people aren't sheep, there's more to a people's future than just to merge into a single bland human blob. Just like there's biodiversity in nature, there's diversity in human people and cultures. There are rarer species, then there are rats, pigeons, etc that thrive so much they would take over the whole ecosystem if they could. Opponents of human diversity argue we should all be the same, like rats or pigeons and let go of our cultural differences. They equate borders with war and intolerance, but would never give up theirs. One of the purposes of independence or for that matter having countries, is to allow differences, protect a certain area on earth for a people to exist and evolve. Borders are not bad things, they're not being close-minded, or anti-neighbors. When John Lennon sang to imagine no countries to kill or die for, he didn't mean to have the smaller countries shut up and merge in the big ones for peace's sake. Erasing all borders is a nice dream but can't be used by one against the other for self-interest. One of the reasons that made Europe thrive in sciences and arts over the centuries was that it had diversity and competition, it wasn't a single faceless blob. Like the saying goes: you can't have a door without walls. I applaud Scottish independence and apologize to Brits who disagree, as it's none of my business, being a foreigner (good thing there are borders!). I'm a Quebecker and vote yes to independence here too.

snyper1010 · 3 Strikes - Banned! Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 28

Sorry if this comment is going to sound totally off topic but i got bored reading all that unionist pish so i skipped several pages.

What i found funny from the first page is they scream finances when independance is mentioned but as soon as answers are laid out they then scream something else. Its a disgrace and so are the people that support this union. Scotland has been robbed of more than money over the years its well beyond the right time that Scotland is once more a free nation and the Saltire is the only flag that flies above our cities.

crazydaisy · Finding Ma' Way Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 10

YEAH!

Holebender · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject:

You're a tag team, right?
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snyper1010 · 3 Strikes - Banned! Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 28

a tag team? who?

Red Justice · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject:

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