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agentmancuso
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| mairead wrote: | | Get a life Blackleaf and look at ALL the facts and don't just repeat what Westminster tells you. They've been feeding the English Ego for centuries with a load of BS. |
The 'English Ego'!? What the f**k is that supposed to mean?
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mairead
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Just what it says, Agent M..
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agentmancuso
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It says you're a bigoted moron.
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mairead
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Not at all, though you are entitled to your own opinion.
I am not in the least bigoted, racist, nor moronic however you are rude and ignorant if that is the best reply you can make.
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Stevie
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| Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Ten Good reasons for Independence |
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| Quote: | Come on now debate and refute these figures if you can........
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I think it's time to update some of these figures.
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calum
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As i prepare to have a good dram, i can think of whisky taxes coming down! And maybe the profits from this Scottish industry not being used to fund nuke subs and illegal wars.
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crb012
Finding Ma' Way
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:53 pm Post subject: Petition on referendum for Independence |
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Dave Coull
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| crb012 wrote: | | We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Urge MSP’s |
Groan........
You are asking the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom to put pressure on Members of the Scottish Parliament?
Yes, of course, we all know that prime ministers of the UK are bound to put pressure on Members of the Scottish Parliament, particularly on MSPs of their own party, but the thing is, any British prime minister who doesn't support independence for Scotland (in other words any British prime minister.......) can DENY putting pressure on MSPs, and virtuously say that it is unethical of you to suggest the PM should twist the MSPs' arms.
In other words, you are playing into the unionists' hands yet again.
By the way, using a capital "U" with "Urge" strengthens the impression of arm-twisting, and by the way also, there is no apostrophe in the plural "MSPs". | Quote: | | to, and to himself, unequivocally support |
The word "unequivocally" is superfluous. It doesn't matter what private reservations they may or may not have. In a vote in a parliament, whether the Scottish Parliament or any other, Members either support (that is, vote for) a bill, or they don't. Also, the way this sentence is constructed is bad grammar. The word "to" should be followed by a verb, not by the preposition "and". It should be "to support, and to himself support". Mind you, as already indicated, I think it a bad idea to ask Gordon Brown to put pressure on MSPs anyway. | Quote: | | the intended bill for a referendum on Independence for Scotland to be brought forward by the Scottish Government in autumn 2010 to the Scottish Parliament |
Eh?
You are saying the referendum bill is not going to be brought forward until the Autumn of 2010?
As I understand it, that's not what Alex Salmond and co are saying. They are saying that there will be a referendum in the Autumn of 2010. In order for an Autumn referendum to be possible, a referendum bill has to be presented to the Scottish Parliament, there has to be time for the bill to be discussed and voted on, there has to be time for the bill to be enacted, and there has to be time for both sides to put their case in the actual referendum campaign. That means there has to be a few months between the bill first being presented, and the actual referendum taking place. So in order to have a referendum in the Autumn of 2010, the referendum BILL would have to be presented in EARLY 2010. I have seen Robert Burns' birthday, in late January, mentioned as a likely date for the bill to be presented.
I'm sorry, but this petition is still very confused and confusing and could do more harm than good. I won't be signing. |
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crb012
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| Dave Coull wrote: | | crb012 wrote: | | We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Urge MSP’s |
Groan........
You are asking the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom to put pressure on Members of the Scottish Parliament?
Yes, of course, we all know that prime ministers of the UK are bound to put pressure on Members of the Scottish Parliament, particularly on MSPs of their own party, but the thing is, any British prime minister who doesn't support independence for Scotland (in other words any British prime minister.......) can DENY putting pressure on MSPs, and virtuously say that it is unethical of you to suggest the PM should twist the MSPs' arms.
In other words, you are playing into the unionists' hands yet again.
By the way, using a capital "U" with "Urge" strengthens the impression of arm-twisting, and by the way also, there is no apostrophe in the plural "MSPs". | Quote: | | to, and to himself, unequivocally support |
The word "unequivocally" is superfluous. It doesn't matter what private reservations they may or may not have. In a vote in a parliament, whether the Scottish Parliament or any other, Members either support (that is, vote for) a bill, or they don't. Also, the way this sentence is constructed is bad grammar. The word "to" should be followed by a verb, not by the preposition "and". It should be "to support, and to himself support". Mind you, as already indicated, I think it a bad idea to ask Gordon Brown to put pressure on MSPs anyway. | Quote: | | the intended bill for a referendum on Independence for Scotland to be brought forward by the Scottish Government in autumn 2010 to the Scottish Parliament |
Eh?
You are saying the referendum bill is not going to be brought forward until the Autumn of 2010?
As I understand it, that's not what Alex Salmond and co are saying. They are saying that there will be a referendum in the Autumn of 2010. In order for an Autumn referendum to be possible, a referendum bill has to be presented to the Scottish Parliament, there has to be time for the bill to be discussed and voted on, there has to be time for the bill to be enacted, and there has to be time for both sides to put their case in the actual referendum campaign. That means there has to be a few months between the bill first being presented, and the actual referendum taking place. So in order to have a referendum in the Autumn of 2010, the referendum BILL would have to be presented in EARLY 2010. I have seen Robert Burns' birthday, in late January, mentioned as a likely date for the bill to be presented.
I'm sorry, but this petition is still very confused and confusing and could do more harm than good. I won't be signing. |
OK Dave - points taken.
I have emailed you....lets continue this over email...i am interested to discuss with you in much detail
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