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jamesieboy · Helping with the Count Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 327

Muriel Gray, I am told by a number of friends, wrote an article in the Sunday Herald a few weeks ago, about certain websites where those who have nationalist leanings, are nasty and indulge in venomous, infantile abuse.

Did she mean this site?

Before I get shot down in flames, I have to say that I am getting this info second hand, albeit from a guy who is very articulate and knowledgeable, however if this is more or less what she is saying, I can see her point.

Lord Pitsligo · Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:53 pm Post subject:

Why don't you have a search for it online, like you always tell us to do before making a comment?

I found this article though, got to love her style Laughing

http://www.sundayherald.com/oped/opinion/display.var.2495470.0.0.php
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azzuri · 'Our Scotland' Fossil Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 4291

...to be honest, I doubt this site even shows up on mighty Muriel's radar.

And this is possibly one of the most accepting messageboards on the net, indeed the absence of any sort of 'cliques' makes it especially unique. However, if you're going to arrive on the scene with 'I'm this, I'm that' attitude then someone calls you out on something you've said, or points out conflicting things that you yourself have said, you can't surely be surprised?!

Here, no one seems to give a s**t about individual personas, indeed it's a person's opinion/s that show the measure of the person behind the pseudonym. We have largely avoided an influx of idiots because of this (although the occasional one does slip through the net!), and I've proud of the community that's been built here.

Of course; everyone is entitled to their opinion, but on the whole I think this forum is free from the petty squabbling that is to be found regularly elsewhere. However, show me a forum where there are no arguments?!?!

And if Muriel Gray seems to think that this sort of behaviour only exits on 'nationalist' forums, she'd technically be correct, if only because I've yet to find a dedicated Scottish 'unionist' one! Laughing

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Lord Pitsligo · Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:07 pm Post subject:

She makes a passing comment here in the last paragraph:

http://www.sundayherald.com/oped/...hen_our_politicians_betray_us.php

But that's all I could find.

But see jamsie? Not difficult is it? A little bit of google and some url tags are alll you need. Unless of course, your point is a non starter, as I think it probably is in this case. She seems to be referring to the comments on some newspaper websites, if so I would refer her to the Daily Mail's comments, where she'll see some really nasty anti-Scottish comments.
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Scott2006 · Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:19 pm Post subject:

I think there are a lot of websites that clamp down on all ideas that are not held by the site owners - or the powerful cliques majority view.

None of your posts have been edited or deleted - unlike some so-called free-speech newspapers. If you chose to express a view and ask for comments - after stating your viewpoint - it wouldbe easier to construct a reasonable debate.
Anybody that asks for a world-view on the strength of just a few words - looks like a potential troll.

The more views, as cogently typed as possible, of whatever political strand would get a fair but robust response in most cases on this site in my experience.

http://www.sundayherald.com/search/index.php
In the search box put in Muriel Gray

Hope that helps.
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Stevie · Independentist Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 1179

This is NOT a site filled with the meanwitted. In fact, quite the contrary, the people here are remarkably tolerant and argumentative in the intellectual sense of the word.

Even Aventinian who made a "Nazi" remark was quite pleasant about my unpleasant reply, I cooled down, apologised and see this forum for being an actual forum - probably the best in Scotland, speaking quite dispassionately. Muriel Gray is entitled to her opinion but I doubt she has much more than second hand knowledge of these sites.

What is Muriel Gray doing these days anyway... ?
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Stevie · Independentist Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 1179

Is Muriel Grey against independence?

Sorry if this seems a dumb question but I'm just curious and haven't heard of her since the 80s.
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Holebender · Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:52 pm Post subject:

Comes across as solid Labour. Solid as in dense a lot of the time.
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Stevie · Independentist Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 1179

Never figured her for a Brit Nat but she's always struck me as a bolshie bugger.

She'll probably accuse me of ultranationalisticfashismhpalidoshis now.
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Stevie · Independentist Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 1179

Opinionated, mouthy self-loving girl that she is, Muriel Gray can go suck a Montrose... as I said elsewhere.

Here however is a mini bio of her highness :

After playing in punk band, The Family Von Trapp, she became an interviewer on the early Channel 4 alternative pop show The Tube from 1982 and presented The Media Show (1987-89) for the same channel. She was briefly a DJ for Edinburgh's Radio Forth in 1983 and 1984. She was a regular stand-in presenter on BBC Radio 1 during most of the eighties, most notably being John Peel's replacement. She also presented regularly on BBC Radio 4, for Start the Week in Russell Harty's absence and also during Jeremy Paxman's leave.

In 1996, Gray appeared on French and Saunders, with Dawn French and Jennifer Saunders, as an outspoken activist of Scottish history,[clarification needed] she ends up scaring off the English invaders at the Battle of Gleneagles, with her behaviour, in a parody of Mel Gibson's 1995 film, Braveheart.

Altogether now... mmooooooooooo
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landg · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:46 am Post subject:

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landg · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:09 pm Post subject:

Stevie · Independentist Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 1179

Incomprehensible as he is inscrutible.
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landg · Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:59 pm Post subject:

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Ah, landg is responding... the pressure is mounting.

I await with bated breath the post moderation excitation.
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