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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

30% Labour versus 19.5% SNP.

Labour voters who are asking themselves if they should abstain or vote will constitute a large proportion of the 41% undecideds.

I originally thought that Labour would hold this seat comfortably, with the SNP gaining substantially.

However, it looks as though the SNP should be statistical favourites.

Interestingly Paddy Power have the SNP at 8/11 - although we remember how off the mark the bookies were with Glenrothes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they're still undecided at this stage don't get your hopes up.

I don't see what you mean by the SNP being statistical favourites.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If they're still undecided at this stage don't get your hopes up.

I don't see what you mean by the SNP being statistical favourites.


What I meant is that these undecideds are probably not going to opt for Labour.  Many of them will be considering abstaining, the vast majority of the remainder will go to the SNP.

So, the probability is that the SNP support will rise dramatically from this figure of 19.5%, whilst the Labour vote might increase marginally.

The undecided's were the ones that eventually opted for the SNP in Glasgow East.  These figures suggest to me a similar outcome for the SNP, who, despite this will campaign on a 'take nothing for granted' platform.

The new Alistair Darling revelations have simply compouned Labour's woe's.  It is being reported that Brown is now willing to sacrifice this seat in order to free up the ground prior to a general election.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conservative : 40%
Labour           : 18%
Libs               : 18%

MORI POLL (before Darling's expenses fiddle)

UK poll but no idea what's happening in Scotland.

Not sure I fully agree that the undecided won't vote Labour, why wouldn't they?

If they're still undecided then that's a more likely vote for Labour than against I think.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George wrote:
Bravehand wrote:
If they're still undecided at this stage don't get your hopes up.

I don't see what you mean by the SNP being statistical favourites.


What I meant is that these undecideds are probably not going to opt for Labour.  Many of them will be considering abstaining, the vast majority of the remainder will go to the SNP.

So, the probability is that the SNP support will rise dramatically from this figure of 19.5%, whilst the Labour vote might increase marginally.

The undecided's were the ones that eventually opted for the SNP in Glasgow East.  These figures suggest to me a similar outcome for the SNP, who, despite this will campaign on a 'take nothing for granted' platform.

The new Alistair Darling revelations have simply compouned Labour's woe's.  It is being reported that Brown is now willing to sacrifice this seat in order to free up the ground prior to a general election.


A lot of the DKs are 'reserve' left votes (around 7%) who are considering voting Labour instead.

It is completely unlike Glasgow East.

There is no chance.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The favourite to be the SNP candidate Grant Thomas has decided to step aside.

Date could be as early as the 23rd of July, but surely Labour wouldn't hole it during the Glasgow Fair again?  Would they?!  The other date being mentioned is the 27 August.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/politi...ithdraws_from_nomination_race.php
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My scientific way of determining the election date is to watch when The Herald starts to produce more overtly anti SNP headlines, less balanced and informative.

The Herald have now started them, on that basis my guess is the earlier of the two dates.

There, that's my prediction.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now By-Elections blog is saying that the by-election may not be until November!

If Labour leave it that long, they will get hammered.

http://by_elections.blogspot.com/...-wants-glasgow-north-east-by.html
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the SNP shortlist according to Scotland on Sunday

http://news.scotsman.com/politics...resenter-tipped-as-SNP.5430074.jp
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to SNP Tactical Voting, James Dornan, councillor for Langside is going to be the SNP candidate.

http://www.snptacticalvoting.com/...ornan-to-stand-for-snp-in-by.html

On a side note, surely it is not right that we have to wait until November to get this sorted out.  Does anyone know what the time limit is to have a by-election?  Tens of thousands of pounds will be spent on it, then the whole thing will have to be done barely 6 months later.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a good choice to me.  Views?

The Scottish National Party has tonight selected City Councillor and
Glasgow’s Opposition leader James Dornan as the party’s candidate for the upcoming Glasgow North East by-election.

The Glasgow North East seat is vacant following the resignation of former speaker Michael Martin.  No date for the by-election has been set with Labour suggesting they will delay the vote until November.

Cllr Dornan (56), who has two grown up children and two grandchildren represents the Langside ward in the city and became leader of the SNP Group on Glasgow Council following the election of John Mason as SNP MP for Glasgow East in 2008

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As time rolls on with still no by-election, the Lib Dems have announced their candidte.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/8188111.stm
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unionist FEAR!

Testimony that Labour voters are pee'd off wi' Labour in Scotland.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From today's report in the Scotsman about the Tory choice of candidate for this by election
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insiders have joked that Ms Davidson is "everything that David Kerr dislikes".

Mr Kerr is a member of the controversial conservative Roman Catholic group Opus Dei, which has been accused of being homophobic and anti-women.

Not only is Ms Davidson, 30, a Unionist, she is also a lesbian living with her partner in Partick. And she is a Protestant, who used to help out in her church as a Sunday school teacher.

http://news.scotsman.com/politics...journalists-to-compete.5553757.jp
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Jury Team have financed a candidate to stand in the by-election:

John Smeaton

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/8274282.stm

If he is lucky he may scrape a few more votes than the Monster Raving Loony Party, but not much more.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:53 pm    Post subject: Smeaton Reply with quote

Reluctant Hero wrote:

If he is lucky he may scrape a few more votes than the Monster Raving Loony Party, but not much more.


He is a staunch Rangers man isn't he? I doubt that will go down well in the east of Glasgow, I would like to think it wouldn't make a difference in this day and age, but......

Anyway, he 'may' split the socialist vote a bit, however he is a very poor candidate though, I wouldn't think he will be taken very seriously, but you never know, the 'Smeato' effect might get him votes...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's funny, I always had him down as a staunch Labour man, maybe though thta was simply down to the way he allowed Brown to use him.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:04 am    Post subject: Re: Smeaton Reply with quote

urchurdan wrote:
He is a staunch Rangers man isn't he? I doubt that will go down well in the east of Glasgow
Believe it or not, there are some Rangers fans in the east of Glasgow. Besides, he recently got married to a girl called Christy MacPhedran, and she is Catholic, and there has been a rumour that Smeato might even convert to his wife's denomination. Whether that rumour is true or not, having a Catholic wife could take the edge off hostility to him being a Rangers fan.

So, there's Smeato, there's the Opus Dei/SNP candidate, there's the Lesbian protestant Sunday School teacher Tory candidate, there's Tommy Sheridan, there's the BNP........

Oh yes, and there's the boring old Labour Party.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Smeaton Reply with quote

Dave Coull wrote:
So, there's Smeato, there's the Opus Dei/SNP candidate, there's the Lesbian protestant Sunday School teacher Tory candidate, there's Tommy Sheridan, there's the BNP........

Oh yes, and there's the boring old Labour Party.


What a byelection this is going to be, if Labour ever actually move the writ.

Not to mention John Swinburne, fairly high profile, running for the SSCUP. I wonder if the so-called Scottish Unionist Party will stand again...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

urchurdan, how could smeaton split the socialist vote?  he has right wing views, which he spouts in the sun and no-one would surely associate him as a socialist candidate.

He will now be dealing with political journalist and as he is standing as a more trustworthy candidate than exisiting politicians then he will see his story about what happened at Glasgow airport scrutinised.  It was fun while it lasted Smile

Embarassed  http://video.stv.tv/bc/news-250909-smeatongrilled/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/u...-John-Smeaton-branded-a-fake.html


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