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Dave Coull
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| alfred wrote: | | You're not very welcoming |
There is no particular reason why I should be welcoming towards you. I'm not one of the folk who run this Our Scotland forum | alfred wrote: | | how can we really trust anyone on the internet? |
Through experience. I know from experience which posters on this forum I can definitely trust (whether I agree with them or not), and which posters I definitely can't trust, and which posters come into the "not sure yet" category. I have never met Rinty, and I disagree with him about many things, but I know he is trustworthy.
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alfred
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| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Dave Coull wrote: | | alfred wrote: | | You're not very welcoming |
There is no particular reason why I should be welcoming towards you. I'm not one of the folk who run this Our Scotland forum | alfred wrote: | | how can we really trust anyone on the internet? |
Through experience. I know from experience which posters on this forum I can definitely trust (whether I agree with them or not), and which posters I definitely can't trust, and which posters come into the "not sure yet" category. I have never met Rinty, and I disagree with him about many things, but I know he is trustworthy. |
Wow. Are you a real person? |
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Holebender
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:20 am Post subject: |
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As no-one else has come out and said it yet... alfred, you seem very similar to a previous poster called amber (apart from the statement about unionism, which could be false). Are you related? If not, may I suggest you stop obsessing about the Sheridans and join some of the union versus independence discussions?
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alfred
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| Holebender wrote: | | As no-one else has come out and said it yet... alfred, you seem very similar to a previous poster called amber (apart from the statement about unionism, which could be false). Are you related? If not, may I suggest you stop obsessing about the Sheridans and join some of the union versus independence discussions? |
I did join some other discussions but this arse Coull popped up and sapped the life out of me (I also recommended the Very Things!).
I am totally engrossed by the Sheridan thing, though, and look forward to his imprisonment. You might see that as obsession. Not much I can do about that.
Anyway, I've said my farewells elsewhere.
Cheerio. |
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Dave Coull
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| alfred wrote: | | I am totally engrossed by the Sheridan thing |
Yes, you are. You're obsessed with it. That's why you reminded Holebender of somebody else. Rinty is also very engrossed by "the Sheridan thing", though from a different point of view from you. And at least he is open about his reasons, unlike you. | alfred wrote: | | this arse Coull |
Alfred is unable to conduct a rational discussion without resorting to personal abuse. As can be seen from the following: | alfred wrote: | | you stupid wee man |
"Stupid" is just abuse. As for "wee".............the size-ist prejudice against small men and women and children is both irrational and an assumption without evidence. | alfred wrote: | | A***holes like you |
More proof that Alfred is unable to conduct a rational discussion without resorting to abuse. | alfred wrote: | | are the reason the nationalist cause has such an appalling reputation |
In response to my perfectly reasonable point that I'm not a nationalist, not a member of any political party, never even been a member of any political party, don't support any political party, or any politician, and am not seeking to get anybody elected, or to help anybody retain office, the only reply from "alfred" is | Quote: | | this aching b***sack Coull |
Ignoring the pointless personal abuse, what is significant to note about this exchange is that Alfred didn't take kindly to criticism of a politician he favours. | Holebender wrote: | | Murphy is just the latest in a string of Secretaries of State who see their remit as Whitehall's voice in Scotland... the exact opposite of their supposed job. |
| alfred wrote: | | could you back up that claim? |
Holebender presumably being rather busy drilling for oil, it was Chicmac who backed up the claim. Alfred, unable to provide a counter-argument to the proof provided by Chicmac, criticised the way the evidence was given. When I pointed out that this was what had just happened, Alfred became abusive about me personally. But he has no answer to the justified criticism of that career politician. |
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Red Justice
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| alfred wrote: | | Holebender wrote: | | As no-one else has come out and said it yet... alfred, you seem very similar to a previous poster called amber (apart from the statement about unionism, which could be false). Are you related? If not, may I suggest you stop obsessing about the Sheridans and join some of the union versus independence discussions? |
I did join some other discussions but this arse Coull popped up and sapped the life out of me (I also recommended the Very Things!).
I am totally engrossed by the Sheridan thing, though, and look forward to his imprisonment. You might see that as obsession. Not much I can do about that.
Anyway, I've said my farewells elsewhere.
Cheerio. |
I can't understand the mentality of someone who wants anyone to go to jail.
Tommy and Gail have a young child to look after.
Tommy is both liked and disliked by some people. However many people who dislike Tommy would not necessarily wish him to be sent down.
I am hopeful justice will prevail and Tommy will clear his name. I have no doubt that Tommy has a lot of friends outside Solidarity that simply and quite rightly hate Murdoch and his gutter rag News Of The World.
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Red Justice
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I thought you had gone Alfred?
Why have you sent me a private message?
I only will reply to private messages from friends such as Rinty.
You have your own opinions about this case I have mine. I am confident Tommy will clear his name.
In the meantime I will attack the NOTW and criticise the blatant waste of money and police time spent on this case.
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Dave Coull
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Holebender wrote: | | As no-one else has come out and said it yet... alfred, you seem very similar to a previous poster called amber |
I see what you mean about the similarity. In any case, regardless of whether or not "Alfred" may be the same person, one thing is certain, "Alfred" is not quite the innocent he/she pretended to be. | Red Justice wrote: | | I have no doubt that Tommy has a lot of friends outside Solidarity that simply and quite rightly hate Murdoch and his gutter rag News Of The World. |
I certainly have reason to dislike Murdoch and his gutter rag! Plus, ten years ago, when my American wife was trying to get a visa to settle in this country, and I wrote to lots of MPs and MSPs about this, Tommy Sheridan was just about the only one who took prompt action. So, regardless of anything that he may or may not have done since then, that's a point in his favour. | Red Justice wrote: | | many people who dislike Tommy would not necessarily wish him to be sent down. |
| alfred wrote: | | I am totally engrossed by the Sheridan thing, though, and look forward to his imprisonment |
| Red Justice wrote: | | I can't understand the mentality of someone who wants anyone to go to jail. |
Especially for a non-violent "crime", if it is a "crime" at all. That is very vindictive of "alfred", and it makes you wonder, WHY? |
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Stevie
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There are not enough Tommy Sheridans. He is not perfect (who is?) and I suspect got caught up in something here he regrets. The Scots recognise he is the real deal. I think his political career is far from over irrespective of the court case.
Frankly, I have little idea of what he did wrong but I'm quite certain his relative misdemeanor is small potatoes next to the snouts in the trough lot in Westminster.
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Stevie
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How is Tommy's case going?
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Rinty
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| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| Trial, if it goes ahead will be next year, probably feb/mar time. |
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landg
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'I can't understand the mentality of someone who wants anyone to go to jail'.
thats pretty weird i have to say, you've obviously never been raped, slashed or had your house broken into. |
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landg
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''Tommy and Gail have a young child to look after''.
so. whats that got to do with jailing criminals? |
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landg
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In the meantime I will attack the NOTW and criticise the blatant waste of money and police time spent on this case. |
it's a waste of time investigating perjury. again you do not seem to living in the real world.red 'justice'. |
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Stevie
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The idea that prosecuting T Sheridan is somehow the pursuit of justice is definitely against the general will of the Scots.
Tommy is largely supported by the majority of Scots because he stood up personally (before he was a politician) against Thatcherism and was subsequently voted in to office.
Nothing will be gained, nothing will be served and nothing should be done.
It's ridiculous.
Can't Kenny MacKaskill step in or somebody step in and stop this nonsense?
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landg
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| Bravehand wrote: | The idea that prosecuting T Sheridan is somehow the pursuit of justice is definitely against the general will of the Scots.
REALLY? SINCE WHEN?
Tommy is largely supported by the majority of Scots because he stood up personally (before he was a politician) against Thatcherism and was subsequently voted in to office.
I THINK YOU'LL FIND HE IS MORE OF SAD CARICATURE OF HIMSELF. THE MAJORITY IF SCOTS? HMMMMMMMMMMM DON'T THINK SO. PLENTY OF FOLK STILL BUYING MURDOCHS PAPERS AND CELEB BB IS OFF AIR.
Nothing will be gained, nothing will be served and nothing should be done.
YES IT WILL IF FOUND GUILTY OR INNOCENT.
It's ridiculous.
NO IT'S NOT.
Can't Kenny MacKaskill step in or somebody step in and stop this nonsense?
MAYBE STOP THE TRIAL IF IT GOES AHEAD ON HUMANITERIAN GROUNDS?
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landg
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| THAT DI'NT WORK RIGHT, MY REPLIES ARE IN BOLD IN THE QUOTE BOX. SORRY BOUT THAT. |
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Ultra
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| Dave Coull wrote: | | I long ago got used to the fact that I am very much the exception in using my real name on the internet. A lot of folk use pseudonyms to disguise who they are. However, that's not the case where Rinty is concerned. His real name is Jim Monaghan. He uses his real name on some other forums, and has never made any secret of it on this one. He is a prominent member of "Solidarity" and sometimes acts as a spokesperson for that party. You, on the other hand, Alf, could be anybody. |
Dear Dave,
You seem to be hung up on the fact that people choose to use users names instead of their own names on the internet. Do you subject every new poster to this forum with the same line of question and bullshit about people being untrustworthy because they have a user name?
If you are so paranoid about posters on forums I suggest you give the forums a miss. This is the 3rd or 4th thread which decends into the same paranoia of either someone being a previous poster or liars which I have read since I joined last week.
Maybe it's to do with your little attention seeking episode of giving the NOTW an interview and now you think everyone is out to get you. Who knows? I am sure there are far more interesting people in Scotland who would interest the security sevices. Sadly, you aren't one of them.
As for Tommy Sheridan (better keep it on topic)
Most folk in Scotland were surprised he actually won his libel case due to the amount of evidence and witnesses against him.
Sadly for Tommy he has become a victim of new technologies which can pin point exactly where he was. Oh dear.... |
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Stevie
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| Ultra wrote: | | Dave Coull wrote: | | I long ago got used to the fact that I am very much the exception in using my real name on the internet. A lot of folk use pseudonyms to disguise who they are. However, that's not the case where Rinty is concerned. His real name is Jim Monaghan. He uses his real name on some other forums, and has never made any secret of it on this one. He is a prominent member of "Solidarity" and sometimes acts as a spokesperson for that party. You, on the other hand, Alf, could be anybody. |
Dear Dave,
You seem to be hung up on the fact that people choose to use users names instead of their own names on the internet. Do you subject every new poster to this forum with the same line of question and bullshit about people being untrustworthy because they have a user name?
If you are so paranoid about posters on forums I suggest you give the forums a miss. This is the 3rd or 4th thread which decends into the same paranoia of either someone being a previous poster or liars which I have read since I joined last week.
Maybe it's to do with your little attention seeking episode of giving the NOTW an interview and now you think everyone is out to get you. Who knows? I am sure there are far more interesting people in Scotland who would interest the security sevices. Sadly, you aren't one of them.
As for Tommy Sheridan (better keep it on topic)
Most folk in Scotland were surprised he actually won his libel case due to the amount of evidence and witnesses against him.
Sadly for Tommy he has become a victim of new technologies which can pin point exactly where he was. Oh dear.... |
Dave has a point, people should be willing to stand by their words with their names.
I chose not to for various reasons (not anything particularly secretive) and Dave hasn't attacked me. He is far from paranoid about it and he does have a point. I do hope that I don't write anything where I would be better to hide.
It's also not a bad policy to not shove yourself about too much publicly on the net, you never know...
As for giving the forum a miss, Dave has earned his place as has Aventinian (with whom I disagree but his place is solid despite his annoying assertion from time to time).
Add a few thousand posts before you suggest people should give things a miss.
I suspect the truth is your not terribly happy here yourself but please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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landg
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it just goes to show what a low-life rag the NOTW is, anyone connected to it or has used it as a platform must have pretty tabloid values.
i'm no fan of sheridan or the NOTW, ideally they would both be left to slug it out, forever more, in some reality tv tanning salon.
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